Of course some will disagree, I'm generalising based on the experience of teachers I know and have had experience of.
Originally Posted by GrumbleDook
Procedures are in place. The procedure that exists is: if you want to buy anything related to ICT, speak to me and I'll check it out. This is supported by my boss (bursar). However, many teachers simply ignore it.
Teachers and the wrong tools ... why are they allowed to buy those tools? Why don't they go through you? Failings of Senior Leadership or yourself to put the proper processes in place should not be thrown back at teachers. (ok .. a bit heavy there but just to show that just because it does not work for you the way it should it does not mean that others should be labelled that way.)
That's the thing, I just can't see that their workload is as high as they are making out any more. Yes, targets are changing constantly - but so is ICT, so are health and safety rules, so are the accounting rules. And we have a very good SMT here, which provides support to teachers very well.
Teachers get stressed because of workload; lack of support from further up the chain; having to deal with the kids, their parents and the general public; the mad drive to meet Govt targets and changing Govt agendas (which can often conflict with one another depending on whether you work closely with the LA or people like SSAT!)
No, they aren't unique. But I've yet to come across any other profession where planning properly is seen as a luxury and is skipped so often as it is in teaching.
Yes, teachers get stressed if someone is wrong because they failed to plan properly ... they are not unique like that. It affects us to ...
We have 35 teachers in our school, I would hazard a guess that only a fifth of them are in at 8. The rest appear either at 8:30 or just before. They do not have to teach lunchtime groups - this is purely voluntary, and has the advantage they get free lunch if they do. Meetings - we all have meetings, not just teachers.
And as for having to do call-outs, parents' evenings ... you can get paid for it or time off in lieu ... if you don't they have a strong word with your union rep about your contract. Don't get taken advantage of. Teachers are known to start work at 8 (catching up with parents dropping kids off), have a complete day teaching ... have to do the morning break duty as part of a roster, teach a lunchtime group and them have meetings in the evening finishing at 5 upwards (in spite of union guidelines saying no more than one meeting a week of 1 hour max!)
And I agree with the whole parents evenings thing, but it is not as simple as that. Life isn't as easy as complaining to your union and the school rolling over.
My father is a teacher, so I know all about the stress. He used to work long hours but he changed over night and decided that enough was enough and now is nowhere near as bad as he was. Sure he still has all the extra bits to do, as he is a dept head KS3, GCSE and A-Level teacher but I still wouldn't say he worked more hours than the average full time member of staff. (And he is an outstanding teacher as well). This is what I mean about a lot of the stress being created by the teachers themselves. They seem to be stressed for stressed sake in many cases, and there is no need for it.
Yes ... I am married to a teacher and slightly biased on this ... I have worked in a school where teachers were employed to stay onsite until 5, but tended to be there until 6 to work with students ... I have seen the stress, the burnout, the evening and holiday work. I am not saying everyone is like that ... but that is the direction that the Govt is pushing for teachers to go ... extended schools ... VLEs ... home access ... students can learn anytime, anywhere.
I would simply say I disagree - teachers are shafted no more than any other industry.
Yes ... teachers know they are getting shafted and will be shafted even more in the next couple of years.
Nope, we got 'Good with Outstanding factors' in our ofsted a couple of months back - and the only reason we didn't get outstanding as a whole was down to some bizarre stuff happening with tracking of progress.
Originally Posted by contink
I know this is going to sound harsh, but that simply points to it being a bad school (which is not the norm) and as such your fiance should be looking at finding another job.
Most of the very real stress I've seen in my fiancee and other friends or colleagues in the profession have been a direct result of poor or downright criminal management through a wide variety of problems, none of their own making. Sure they whinge from time to time about silly stuff, but high blood pressure at 27 and another seriously considering anti-depressants to cope is hardly someone forgetting to check that powerpoint is working for the lesson.
No, it adds bias too I'm afraid. You are seeing things from a person who you are emotionally attached to's point of view. This is why ofsted is done by external people, as there is no attachment to anyone.
Just because we're married to or marrying to a teacher doesn't just make us biased it makes us better informed.