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    Facebook default email address

    Anyone else spotted this?

    BBC News - Facebook's email switch prompts criticism by users

    FB now displays an @facebook.com email address by default

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    Easy enough to change to your preferred email addy though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveT View Post
    Easy enough to change to your preferred email addy though!
    That's not the point.

    The point is, that facebook has made a change without telling anyone [again] and is ignoring privacy settings.

    If your e-mail is set as hidden, why do they think you want an alt e-mail shown?


    Also, [username]@facbook.com emails have been available for a while. But, no-one cares so they're forcing it.

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    Yeah I saw this and after the initial spike of righteous indignation passed I realised there were a few benefits to this:

    1) For those people who have not properly managed their security settings, the facebook.com email address being the 'default' means that their personal email address that they may use for such services as 'Online Banking' is hidden and therefore not harvestable by unscrupulous individuals.

    2) Again with not harvesting emails - less SPAM. I would EXPECT facebook to be rigidly spam filtering mails sent to the @facebook.com domain otherwise user's inboxes would be full of adverts for meds, viagra and 'male enlargement - please your lady long time'. This would end very badly for facebook.

    3) We ALL have friends on our facebook accounts that perhaps we knew at school, or perhaps they are a family member that you aren't particularly fond of but can't avoid friending by virtue of the shared DNA. Some of these friends have an annoying habit of fwd-ing all those glurge emails - so much so that I have a rule in place on my personal email account that says anything with 'fwd' in the subject bypasses the inbox and is immediately deleted. But using the facebook address, means my personal email account remains inviolate and I'm pretty sure you can set facebook to not allow this person to send you messages.

    4) I have plenty of friends on facebook that I would rather not use my personal email account to contact me. I've got around this by creating a different profile I've called 'limited profile' in which they can see pics I've posted but not my wall, the can see my name and age but not my email, place of work etc. But equally there are people that I'd like to hear from, I'd just rather they contacted me via facebook tbh and this change means that facebook is the only way they CAN. I like this. I like controlling things from one place. If a friend has my personal email it is because I want them to. I like being able to have control over this again.

    5) So-called friends can't use your personal email to sign you up for things that might result in you being targetted for identity fraud. This is a bit like point 1 with the online banking thing - keeping Facebook and your personal email account separate is a really good idea in my opinion. There is information on facebook pages that COULD be used to make educated and accurate guesses at the 'reset my password' security questions - Questions like 'What town was your first job in?' or 'Where was your first job?' - Facebook has a 'work history' section... If you can't see the personal email address you can't use that page to 'hack' an account you don't know about or cannot see.

    So whilst I briefly considered reasserting my autonomy over my Facebook account, I paused long enough to consider that actually, I am happy to hide behind the @facebook.com address.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMLightfoot View Post
    2) Again with not harvesting emails - less SPAM. I would EXPECT facebook to be rigidly spam filtering mails sent to the @facebook.com domain otherwise user's inboxes would be full of adverts for meds, viagra and 'male enlargement - please your lady long time'. This would end very badly for facebook.

    Have you not seen the ads? [based on browsing history]

    You can get some really questionable suggestions. Some in the same vein as the viagra emails.

    If they can't stop them, why do you think they will stop the email versions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    Have you not seen the ads? [based on browsing history]

    You can get some really questionable suggestions. Some in the same vein as the viagra emails.

    If they can't stop them, why do you think they will stop the email versions.
    I can't say I've ever seen an ad for enlarging the male member based on my browsing history... But then I'm not a man. I've seen plastic surgery ads and ads for boob jobs (neither of which I want or need) and plenty of adverts for Shoes (which I never have enough of). I do think there is a difference between what they CAN stop and what they WANT to stop. They don't WANT to stop ads from appearing on the page because they make money every time the ad appears and more when they get a click-thru. The email SPAM doesn't make Facebook money, so they will be invested in preventing 'freeloaders' from spamming facebook accounts with 'Love your lady long time' as it doesn't make them money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMLightfoot View Post
    as it doesn't make them money.
    Yet.

    They'll find a way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    Yet.

    They'll find a way.
    Indeed - by selling the list of @facebook.com addresses to 'selected marketing partners' so I imagine we need to go back through our 'preferences' and make sure there is not another ticky box that has appeared since the email change to say 'Please do not tick here if you want to be contacted by selected marketing partners' (in typically ambiguous and tongue-twisty syntax to confuse people into selecting the wrong option).

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMLightfoot View Post
    Indeed - by selling the list of @facebook.com addresses to 'selected marketing partners' so I imagine we need to go back through our 'preferences' and make sure there is not another ticky box that has appeared since the email change to say 'Please do not tick here if you want to be contacted by selected marketing partners' (in typically ambiguous and tongue-twisty syntax to confuse people into selecting the wrong option).
    Quadruple negatives and legalese. Like a boss.

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    Their brute forcing of changes through to their userbase is very tiresome stuff, one of a few reasons I deleted a lot of the content off my account on there, dont know why I didnt fully deactivate it on there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rich_tech View Post
    Their brute forcing of changes through to their userbase is very tiresome stuff, one of a few reasons I deleted a lot of the content off my account on there, dont know why I didnt fully deactivate it on there.
    There's no point deactivating it, though.

    Someone tried it, then the remade their account from scratch [as a test]... And all their data was still there.


    They retrieved the data through Facebok's in-built data request hoojabob. [Yeah, that's the technical term.]


    Also:

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    Negrep for no reason, with no name... Y U So cereals?

    It's a bit strange getting negrep for memeing... when the negreppar decides to meme in response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    There's no point deactivating it, though.

    Someone tried it, then the remade their account from scratch [as a test]... And all their data was still there.


    They retrieved the data through Facebok's in-built data request hoojabob. [Yeah, that's the technical term.]


    Also:

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    Negrep for no reason, with no name... Y U So cereals?

    It's a bit strange getting negrep for memeing... when the negreppar decides to meme in response.
    Yeah, once you've put data on Facebook it's there for eternity. IMO It's better to interact with it personally, that way you at least have ownership of the data rather than to leave it sitting in the nether in a Facebook server somewhere that you can't access or control in any way. Better the devil you know and all that. I once stupidly signed up to MySpace then deleted the account within 3 days after my inbox was spammed by people looking to 'love me long time' and 'horny fireman looking for love'... Luckily I never got around to putting anything significant on the page but still, I worry how much they might be retaining about me.

    I also signed up to Twitter because I'd rather sign up for something myself, than for someone else to sign up pretending to be me (a la the whole Funnyjunk Lawyer debacle).

    Re: Neg repping - why are people neg repping for meme references have I missed something? Thats not fair. As an aside, there should be an appeal button...

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    But if you deactivate the account then go back and re-activate it, you discover the data is still sitting on a random Facebook server in the nether. The only rule for keeping data private and safe on social networks is not to post it at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMLightfoot View Post
    my inbox was spammed by people looking to 'love me long time' and 'horny fireman looking for love'...

    Re: Neg repping - why are people neg repping for meme references have I missed something? Thats not fair. As an aside, there should be an appeal button...
    I see you got my messages.

    Eh, I get anon meme related negrep a lot. Not as much these days, but I'm used to it.

    And you CAN flag it. But you have to post it in the "message the admins" forum. I've done that once. But only because someone went into ANOTHER thread to negrep twice for the same thing.

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    you can get the @facebook.com email address any way even if its not displayed go on there page friend or not and copy the last bit normaly there name or id number stick the @fbook on the end walla so even if they do hide them expect emails

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