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    Quote Originally Posted by januttall View Post
    you can get the @facebook.com email address any way even if its not displayed go on there page friend or not and copy the last bit normaly there name or id number stick the @fbook on the end walla so even if they do hide them expect emails
    That requires human interaction and a bit of applied logic.

    A simple e-mail harvesting bot wouldn't be able to do it*.


    *Yes, I realise someone could code a bot in a way that it builds the @facebook.com email from the URL while scanning for another email host[?].

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    A point that's been brought up in other places is the whole "wait, so I want people to use whatever@domain.tld and you've just changed the displayed email in a way that lets you intercept communications intended for me?".

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    a way that lets you intercept communications intended for me?".
    TBH, it's more of the same from Facebook. First they store personal information, and ignore DPA so they don't delete it.

    Then they scan through your search history to fine tune their targeted ads...

    Now they're in ur base killin ur doods intercepting your emails for whatever reason.


    No one website should have all that power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    TBH, it's more of the same from Facebook. First they store personal information, and ignore DPA so they don't delete it.

    Then they scan through your search history to fine tune their targeted ads...

    Now they're in ur base killin ur doods intercepting your emails for whatever reason.


    No one website should have all that power.
    That is a good point, and 'intercepting communications meant for me' is a valid and important observation, but it does not take into account context. The context of this is that [PERSON] has a Facebook page. This person has a bunch of 'friends'. One of these friends wants to send a communication to said person. They have a choice of options. As a facebook friend, they COULD post on the wall, but lets say it's 'personal', they COULD send a message. Both of these are intercepted and 'owned' by Facebook already. More than likely, the only way this friend has to contact the person in question is via facebook so why would they go to the additional hassle of going to facebook to find an email address, then send an email - a distant friend will more likely just send a facebook message as it's easier. If they were a 'close' friend they would have a mobile number or they would probably ALREADY have [PERSON]s personal email. If they are a close friend it is more likely that they will call or text. If they are not a close friend they will be more likely to send a quick facebook message. The only reason they might send a 'proper' email is if they want to add attachments, but how often will a 'distant' friend send attachments? We are generalising the function without considering the context or nature of the relationships between people on Facebook and the implications thereof.

    As a facebook user, if I want to contact a person I don't have a phone number for I will Facebook message them. If I have a phone number I will text or call if it's 'personal'. As a Facebook user, this change will not affect me as I rarely email people from facebook.

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    As a non-user (well, I have an account, but I haven't logged-on to it for months now), I wonder just how much people get from FB in terms of 'life-enrichment', if you will, in return for putting up with all this stuff.

    I guess I'll never understand. I'm more of an Instant Messaging person. Which I know you can do on FB, but having to put up with the rest of the ...... facilities, shall we say......is just too much for me.

    Just sayin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earthling View Post
    As a non-user (well, I have an account, but I haven't logged-on to it for months now), I wonder just how much people get from FB in terms of 'life-enrichment', if you will, in return for putting up with all this stuff.

    I guess I'll never understand. I'm more of an Instant Messaging person. Which I know you can do on FB, but having to put up with the rest of the ...... facilities, shall we say......is just too much for me.

    Just sayin'.
    Thats a good question (hopefully it wasn't rhetorical). When we were at school, everyone knew everything about everyone. We all knew when and where the parties were, we all knew who was going out with who and who had a pregnancy scare. It was immersive and social. You didn't even necessarily need to speak to anyone, you just 'heard' things. To me, that's what facebook is like for disconnected adults. In this day and age of long commutes and little free time, we don't have as much time for socialising as we once did. We don't live and work near our friends so we rarely see them. Facebook is the 'grapevine', it's the same as the collective consciousness that we experienced at school. It's about being connected without actually having to connect.

    That being said, having my news feed full of videos of schoolfriends' children playing in the park is a little tedious. But equally I know all sorts of stuff that no-one wants to actually ask. You hear your mate Bob has left his wife to shack up with Sheila, but you don't want to ask his wife if it's true as she's probably going through a lot of pain at the moment (as evidenced by her man-hating, violent, weepy or miserable status updates). You also don't want to appear to condone him by asking him about it (Bob has changed his relationship status to 'It's complicated'; 'Bob' is in a relationship with 'Sheila'). But you don't NEED to ask, because you already know. So before you send a Christmas card to Bob, Jane and the kids, and get a vitriolic rant back from Jane, you have Facebook there to keep you up to date. When a friend is looking a bit fat but you're not sure if she's fat or pregnant? Facebook is your friend - Status updates about her diet and gym routine will help you realise that she's just put a few pounds on. Status updates about buying a cot and redecorating the spare room gives you the confidence you need to say 'I heard about your happy news; congratulations'.

    I wouldn't say 'Life enriching' per se, but certainly useful and informative. It's also slightly voyeuristic - watching a person's relationship fall apart on Facebook is the same as people rubbernecking at an accident. You know you shouldn't be seeing it but you can't help but want to.
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    I have a very small circle of facebook friends... none of them are colleagues. Only 2 of them live in the same county as me.

    Over 50% of them are family members, none of whom lives closer than 2 hours drive from me (One of them lives on Tenerife!) My best friend from school lives in California. A close friend from here has moved back to her native Brisbane.

    For keeping up to date on day to day chit chat with people with whom I am close, but unable to see often if at all, Facebook is brilliant. My privacy settings are locked and I put as little 'data' as possible on there!

    And no I won't use that handy 'log into this with facebook' feature that appears just about everywhere now. Facebook logging in is for facebook and nothing else!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMLightfoot View Post
    Thats a good question (hopefully it wasn't rhetorical). < S N I P >.
    No, it wasn't rhetorical, I genuinely wondered whether if it's worth all the hassle, the loss of control over posted content, the possible redirection/interception of e-mail, the 'care' that has to be taken to abide by SN Policies. Just the fact of having to submit to a work-enforced SN Policy makes me want to rebel the way I used to before I got old and jaded. All without any, or minimal, user consultation or consent.Coupled with the almost diarrhetic posting of some of the 'friends' on my account, it all got too much for me. I didn't get enough from it to warrant the amount of aggro.

    I got enough friends anyway, and they all want me to fix their puters too ( see other thread).

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