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    Printer Consumables... How do you do it!!!!

    I would like to hear what type of printers people have mostly running at their places and how they handle consumables ie are you big on compatibles or do you use refills etc?
    Also how they find the printers to run cost wise.

    We have two Xerox Phaser 8400DP Solid Ink printers in the main ICT rooms. The print quality is excellent with that nice shiny finish but I am finding they are expensive to run.
    Other older rooms which I havevent managed to replace equipment in have Cheap Epson lasers lasers in typically 5800-6100 models and a C42/44/46 for colour 8O which is abolutely comical watcing them fall over every time a few people try to print at once. The lasers are quite cheap to run but are unreliable and are pretty much non servicable. The inkjets were bought just of the cheap Epson compatibles but that it just a complete false economy and I have tried from day 1 to get rid of them all.

    We are slowly replacing all these with HP 1100/1200/2800 business inkjets which are far more reliable and come in at a cost that slips in under the radar unlike a colour Laser.

    We use compatible cartridges and toners mainly from the like of Inkjet and toners.

    I would eventually like to replace all the Epsons with some second user HP 4100 lasers or similar which I know I can lay my hands on for a little over £100 I think. I will be going this route as money for new ones wont come as fast as needed really.

    Chris

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    Re: Printer Consumables... How do you do it!!!!

    I highly recommend the HP Business Inkjet range for colour printing. Very econonical.

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    Re: Printer Consumables... How do you do it!!!!

    For black lasers I recommend the Kyocera Mita's. I think the 1100D is regularly used in Admin offices around here and behaves flawlessly. Its rediciously cheap to run (I don't think I ever changed toner in any of them after 18months working in the schools) and doesn't seem to break either.

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    Re: Printer Consumables... How do you do it!!!!

    Because all of our lasers are dealt with by the managed service, we're predominantly Lexmark here - mainly Optra S1855's & T610's with a couple of T520's for good measure.

    A lot of departments have decided to get their own colour inkjets though as school won't stump for a colour laser, so we've a mix of Lexmark Z53/55, Epson C46/CX3600 & HP 1220c's.

    As for carts, we use compatibles for all our inks & toners, all from local suppliers.

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    Re: Printer Consumables... How do you do it!!!!

    HP's for bigger lasers, some Samsung small lasers + I got a deal on the bigger 2151N Samsungs - I bought 12 @ 4 for the price of 3.

    Some brother lasers that aren't bad.

    Cheap colour laser: Epson C900N - stupid errors all the time - falls over if it doesn't like the job

    HP 2300N - prints one page at a time in Excel - known prob with HP - no fix
    Damn expensive to run - £300 a set iof ink - 1st year I spent £2000 - now departments pay!!! haha!

    Will consider that Kyocera Geoff.

    Small inkjets: Canons and Epsons - PITA! - any probs - chuck 'em and buy new - they're just not worth looking at. & HP.

    Teachers demand colour on thier individual PC's so we have to get inkjets for them.

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    Re: Printer Consumables... How do you do it!!!!

    Cheap colour laser: Epson C900N - stupid errors all the time - falls over if it doesn't like the job
    the C900 is truely terrible. The C1900 is a vast improvement though. I have the C1900 in several schools working without issue. The next model up after the C1900 (2300?) also sucks donkey extremities.

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    Re: Printer Consumables... How do you do it!!!!

    A few of our Kyoceras have started eating paper on longer runs. An initial inspection has found nothing wrong with them and the rollers look in decent nick so maybe a closer inspection is needed. I have been replacing them with HP 4250 and the like.

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    Re: Printer Consumables... How do you do it!!!!

    HP and Epson And Kyocera Mita Recommedations

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    Re: Printer Consumables... How do you do it!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisH
    A few of our Kyoceras have started eating paper on longer runs. An initial inspection has found nothing wrong with them and the rollers look in decent nick so maybe a closer inspection is needed. I have been replacing them with HP 4250 and the like.
    You may find that all the rubber is going smooth and not gripping the paper one sheet at a time anymore. This is caused by paper dust getting into the rubber.

    You just need a can of RRR (Rubber Roller Restorer) and an old rag. Spray on the rollers and wipe roughly with a cloth. This then re-gripifies (new word (c) 2005 ninjabeaver inc.) the rubber and is almost good as new. I got the last can three years ago and its still half full. It's about £4 from CPC.

    It's a good one for the tool box, and could save a few quid replacing your printers.

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    Re: Printer Consumables... How do you do it!!!!

    There's bloody Kyocera printers all over the place here! I don't like them!

    I love the proper HP printers since they are so easy to manage and rarely go wrong - make sure that you use HP print servers though. HP WebJet Admin is a must have util too. I shall ferret out the link Geoff! (don't tell me off again)

    I am slowly replacing the Kyoceras with HP 4000n/4050n/4100n as they pop their clogs enough for me to warrant their replacement. Luckily, the guy I get the 2nd-user HPs from will take these off my hands FOC and will even exchange the working ones for any gubbins that I am after

    I will warn you all, though, for the sake of your sanity, do not buy the HP 4600dn! They eat ink like there is no tomorrow and it costs approx. £400 to replace all 4 toners!

    I only use HP toner and ink - too many problems in the past with compatables. It just isn't worth the effort for what you save.

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    Re: Printer Consumables... How do you do it!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ninjabeaver
    It's about £4 from CPC.
    How do you know about CPC all the way down in Norfolk!! (Just joking). I live about 5 minutes from the warehouse/trade counter - very handy.

    Andy.

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    Re: Printer Consumables... How do you do it!!!!

    I am predominately for HP laserjet's - seem to last forever. Only recently binned the very very very old HP Laserjet 4/4M laser printers we had. The roller are dead & the paper got jammed all the time so it just wasn't worth *trying* to use them anymore.

    But HP's certainly last

    I will warn you all, though, for the sake of your sanity, do not buy the HP 4600dn! They eat ink like there is no tomorrow and it costs approx. £400 to replace all 4 toners!
    Too little too late - bough the non-duplex one about 3 years ago. Its really good but indeed a tad expensive to run like you said. I only have the staff and 4-5-6 years able to print on it, with restictions using Print Manager Plus. Management still aint happy but you cant guess at how much ink/toner a print will *actually* eat up before you buy it can you? (or can you? hehe)

    I only use HP toner and ink - too many problems in the past with compatables. It just isn't worth the effort for what you save.
    Too true. Think we only use a couple of printers that wouldn't cost much to replace if the compatible ink/toner messed up the printer. Cheap lasers.

    The HP WebAdmin tool is great installed on a server and viewable via web-browser - tis handy but I just wish I had more networked ones instead of local machine ones

    Will also consider that Kyocera for a central printing point for office staff Geoff

    Cheers,
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    Re: Printer Consumables... How do you do it!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ninjabeaver

    You may find that all the rubber is going smooth and not gripping the paper one sheet at a time anymore. This is caused by paper dust getting into the rubber.
    I meant that looking at the rollers they looked fine and very griperous :P
    So i couldnt see an immediate problem.

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    Re: Printer Consumables... How do you do it!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by tarquel
    Only recently binned the very very very old HP Laserjet 4/4M laser printers we had.
    We've still got two LaserJet 4ML's running fine. They're only used by two people for occasional print jobs for which they're perfect, although one might be needing a replacement fan shortly.

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    Re: Printer Consumables... How do you do it!!!!

    That was our plan but alas, they have been here longer than me - and I've been here more than 8 years lol - and they were just too full o' crap & damaged, used, etc to work out how to fix them.

    They been abused to much methinks, but couldnt believe they were still up there after so many years of use

    Ta,
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