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    Microsoft Surface Tablet


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    Surface by Microsoft

    Good morning! For those of you that choose to sleep on a Monday night you may have missed the announcement made by Steve Ballmer in LA at about midnight last night. Microsoft are releasing our own devices, and they’re called “Surface”.

    There are two models in the Surface family – Windows RT and Windows 8 Pro. We don’t have a release date yet but to keep up to date with information please visit Surface by Microsoft.

    There is an official launch video which you can see here.

    Surface for Windows RT tablet

    Processor: NVIDIA Tegra-based ARM chip
    Weight: 676 grams
    Thickness: 9.3 millimeters
    Display: 10.6-inch ClearType HD capactive touchpanel
    Battery: 31.5Wh
    I/O: microSD, USB 2.0, Micro HD Video, 2x2 MIMO antennae
    Software: Windows RT + Office Home & Student 2013 RT
    Accessories: Touch Cover, Type Cover, VaporMg Case & Stand
    Capacity: 32GB / 64GB
    Availability: "Around" the Windows 8 launch (fall 2012)
    Pricing: To be determined

    Surface for Windows 8 Pro tablet

    Processor: Intel Core i5 (Ivy Bridge)
    Weight: 903 grams
    Thickness: 13.5 millimeters
    Display: 10.6-inch ClearType Full HD (1080p) capactive touchpanel
    Battery: 42Wh
    I/O: microSDXC, USB 3.0, Mini DisplayPort, 2x2 MIMO antennae
    Software: Windows 8 Pro
    Accessories: Touch Cover, Type Cover, VaporMg Case & Stand, Pen with Palm Block
    Capacity: 64GB / 128GB
    Availability: "Three months after" the Windows 8 launch this fall
    Pricing: To be determined

    We are really excited about this announcement. Any questions at all then please let me know.

    Kind Regards

    Sean

    Sean O’Shea
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    tel: +44 118 9094136 | mob: +44 7875 599852
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    Goes to show Microsoft arn't going to let any OEM muck up Windows 8

    IMO - I WANT

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    Oh joy, my computing experience goes full circle, back to ZX81 style keyboards...

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    Would of been nice to see some hands on with this.

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    One point - it has to be cheap enough for schools to purchase. Schools in the Swansea area are pro-iPad in a big way. If MS want this to get into the classroom they need an education model with education pricing.

    Gareth

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    Clever idea using the cover as a keyboard/trackpad. Kudos to MS for that.

    And I don't know about an educational model/pricing - Apple have done pretty well in education, and they seem to have done everything they possibly can to make life difficult.

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    Why have they used such and outdated slow Soc? Tegra is a real offput for the RT tablet. The Pro oen looks nice as long as its not to costly.
    Last edited by Pottsey; 19th June 2012 at 09:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pottsey View Post
    Why have they used such and outdated slow Soc? Tegra is a real offput.
    Stability and reliability, combined with battle-testing and time to develop the best possible drivers.

    Apple do the same thing with their gear - it means you end up with a more stable environment, which leads to better impressions by the public of the device and system together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pottsey View Post
    Why have they used such and outdated slow Soc? Tegra is a real offput for the RT tablet. The Pro oen looks nice as long as its not to costly.
    I don't know if you have ever used a Windows Phone 7 however with just a 1.0 Ghz CPU it flys faster than anything I have ever seen.

    If Microsoft is using the same software to run applications (which it looks like they are to some degree) in the Windows RT Surface then it will do just the same

    I do think it is a case of we have gone from bloted software on poor hardware (Windows Vista) to well tuned, lightweight software (Windows Phone/Windows RT/8) on hardware that dosn't look all to impressive but runs great.

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    Agree Windows Phone is very slick but tends to get slated by imho people who have yet to experience it, 2 years on it still feels fresh. I think Surface has a great deal going for it, although I think the Windows 8 Pro version could be the better options for schools as it will have access to the huge range of x86 software. Does anyone know if the x86 version will still be able to run the RT version apps, I assume so but haven't been able to clarify this yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pottsey View Post
    Why have they used such and outdated slow Soc? Tegra is a real offput for the RT tablet. The Pro oen looks nice as long as its not to costly.
    That email quoted above is the only place I've seen someone say it's actually using a tegra chip.

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    looking at the spec... it has at least one plus point over an iPad... USB

    And I bet you will be able to manage it through standard network tools as well... WSUS in charge of updates, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommej View Post
    That email quoted above is the only place I've seen someone say it's actually using a tegra chip.
    Microsoft Surface with Windows RT runs an Nvidia Tegra processor | The Verge

    I think they need a lower-powered version of the Intel one as well... the x86 one is clearly going to be a powerhouse intended for execs, because they want corporations (eager for GP administration) to stump up for the pricey one, where the ARM/RT model is aimed squarely at the consumer market.

    I doubt very much they'll shift Apple's mindshare for consumers, though, and within two years they'll be concentrating solely on corporate with x86 models, some of them running on the newer Atom that's due out in the next year or so (iirc). And at that point, they'll be reasonably priced and prime for educational use.

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    According to CNET:

    "Surface for Windows RT" uses a Nvidia Tegra chip.

    "Surface for for Windows 8 Pro" uses Intel Core i5 "Ivy Bridge." Tihis machine is larger and heavier than it's Tegra based sibling and an iPad.

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