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    The French Ban SatNavs with Speed Camera Databases!

    Researching the purchase of a new SatNav for my new Smart CDI (Yes I'm turning into a self righteous tree hugger), I stumbled across this Garmin | United Kingdom | In-car Extras - Speed & Safety Cameras

    If your caught in France with a Camera enabled SatNav on holiday this year it could cost you a nice 1300 fine!

    Cripes I thought, how many Brits are heading for a nasty tourist tax this year.

    I wonder what the good old Pub Landlord Al Murray will make of that one!

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    Speed camera databases aren't really needed in France as they post a sign (not a fake one like in the uk) so there will be a camera and its not hidden, it will be on either side of the road.

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    its always been that way in France I believe, I remember reading a while back, if you were caught with a radar detector you would get fined heavy and police would make you destroy it

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    The satnav is built into our car!

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    And it's not just France that has banned speed cameras as Switzerland and Liechtenstein have made them illegal too.

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    Thanks. I have just passed that on to a friend who is driving to France on Saturday.

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    I so read that first post as crepes not cripes. Imagine my disappointment.
    My car has satnav in it, it's a navteq maps satnav, i think the head unit is a bosch, it's in an alfa. It cost 1200, and doesn't have 7 digit post codes in, just 5, and doesn't have the option of turning on speed cameras. It will tell me where car parks are though and sometimes if they're full, but can't take me to the post code of the place, or point out the speed camera on the way there (not that i'd be speaking, it's only got 235bhp - this car, if any, needs the ruddy speed camera jobby on the satnav!)

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    Very useful to know! Will pass it on to a friend.
    This explains why Nokia Drive doesn't have them in it.
    Last edited by ZeroHour; 29th May 2012 at 01:07 AM.

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    If you try to update the maps on a Garmin, it will offer you a "delete French camera info" option. Of course, it isn't an "option" in the true sense of the word...

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    The AA site recommends contacting the car manufacturer for advice if you have a fitted satnav. I've sent Nissan an email, so it will be iteresting to see if I get a reply.

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    This is Tom Tom's view of the situation: Is the TomTom Speed Camera service legal?

    It has been illegal to be warned about the position of fixed speed cameras sinced January 3rd 2012.

    Tom Tom updates removed French speed cameras then.

    However
    TomTom had a meeting with the Road Safety Ministry to clarify the situation regarding new and upcoming legislation. As a result, TomTom is introducing a 100% compliant Danger Zones service available in a free download for compatible products.
    and you can now choose to download these 'danger zones' instead. (Scroll down the page on the above link for the official explanation)

    I assume these happen to coincide with fixed speed camera areas. What the Gendarmerie on a bad day would make of "danger zones" is another matter!

    The reporting of speed cameras in some other countries is illegal too, Switzerland for example.... We got flashed by a camera before we realised it wasn't working on our satnav!

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    Apparently there is a brilliant trick for beating speed cameras in every country.

    First you look at the road signs which tell you the maximum speed you can travel at.
    Next you look at the instrument panel to find the bit that tells you the speed you are traveling at.
    Finally, you make sure you use the pedals that make cars go faster or slower in such a way that you don't go faster than the speed limit.

    I know ... it is an amazing concept and I am so surprised that more isn't said about it instead of people talking about tools used to spot cameras so you don't get caught speeding.

    Just saying!

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    I agree with you grumbledook but there are a lot of cases where drivers are tootling along concentrating on the road ahead and miss a speed limit. The warning is a reminder to them that they need to check their speed. The people that race up to the camera, break heavily and the accelerate away again are no-hopers!

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    I am sure this has been the case for a long time, I remember looking into it in Summer 05.

    Don't forget other French (and other European rules) like hi vis jackets in the car (not boot), spare bulbs, breathalyser kits from July 1st etc etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by laserblazer View Post
    I agree with you grumbledook but there are a lot of cases where drivers are tootling along concentrating on the road ahead and miss a speed limit. The warning is a reminder to them that they need to check their speed. The people that race up to the camera, break heavily and the accelerate away again are no-hopers!
    I got my first speeding ticket a week after I passed my test, driving back from a hospital at around midnight I missed the 40 sign as it wasn't illuminated and I hadn't been driving long enough to be familiar with the road. Thought it was still a 60 and got caught doing 52

    I would rather all speed cameras be removed and replaced with Tailgating Cameras instead, though.

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