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    Microsoft Using Server 2012 Web Servers

    Hi,

    I have noticed on the MS site they are using IIS 8. Surely it would be a silly thing to put a Server OS into production that hasnt been released yet? Unless 2012 is finished or very nearly finished?

    What are your thoughts please?

    Thanks

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    Could be their way of doing a final test run, putting it under live conditions while it's still in their control (not in the wild). Hope they have a back up plan if it all goes Pete tong

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    They always test their stuff internally first, most have access to the latest beta stuff and run it to give it a good run through internally before it gets pushed out. I remember a blog about their setup. Basicly they get a machine and a logon when they start and they get to boot something like MDT where they can put on a bacic image and install what they need. I'm sure it does not apply to all their staff but in the main campus they do, or at least did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SYNACK View Post
    They always test their stuff internally first, most have access to the latest beta stuff and run it to give it a good run through internally before it gets pushed out. I remember a blog about their setup. Basicly they get a machine and a logon when they start and they get to boot something like MDT where they can put on a bacic image and install what they need. I'm sure it does not apply to all their staff but in the main campus they do, or at least did.
    You dont happen to have a link do you please?

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    MS have always been very much like that, they have a company policy of using there own stuff as early as they can infact Bill Gates blogged about it ages ago but they are always at the latest techy they will be running the next version of Exchange before long no doubt

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    Hi,

    I have noticed on the MS site they are using IIS 8. Surely it would be a silly thing to put a Server OS into production that hasnt been released yet? Unless 2012 is finished or very nearly finished?

    What are your thoughts please?

    Thanks
    Microsoft always use their beta products internally, its a process known as "Eating your own dogfood" at Microsoft. It gives them a chance to not just beta test things informally but to test some very specific workloads and scenarios (e.g. they can route a specific amount of traffic to their IIS8 cluster and test how it fails under load).

    They used to have all kinds of build labs there that can test specific scenarios in the lab, and they liked to compare these tests to results from live traffic. Can't really say more as I think I've signed a NDA covering most of what I know about their datacentres.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    You dont happen to have a link do you please?
    I can't remember the exact blog but this behaviour is signposted everywhere in their documentation:
    http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct...GeAu_TDyZv22tw

    with wording like:
    http://www.crn.com/news/channel-prog...IDg**.ecappj01
    The new beta is licensed for lab use only and can't be run in production
    without Microsoft's approval. The Redmond, Wash., company is fielding an early
    adoption program that has 30 customers already running in production, according
    to Myerson. Microsoft plans to expand its internal deployment of Exchange Server
    2007 to 8,000 company users.

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    Microsoft have been doing this for the past 24 years...

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_your_own_dog_food

    I seem to remember watching a video on Microsoft's Channel 9 website which mentioned a few of the things Synack talked about above.

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