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    600000 macs infected


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    I wouldn't believe everything you read.....

    Aren't we ALWAYS being told by the fanbois how it's impossible for an Apple product to get infected?

    Nothing to see here....Move along please!!!

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    *anything* can be infected with the right will. With the level of mac usage in US education, it will just become more and more rife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by synaesthesia View Post
    *anything* can be infected with the right will. With the level of mac usage in US education, it will just become more and more rife.
    I have tried to point this out to people, but they refuse to believe it.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by aerospacemango View Post
    I have tried to point this out to people, but they refuse to believe it.....

    So Have i!!

    Finally I can gloat to some staff here!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by glennda View Post
    So Have i!!

    Finally I can gloat to some staff here!!!
    It's the way that some people have that supercillious attitude that Macs are impervious to any outside influence.

    I like to point out that that is because their share of the market is so miniscule as to not make writing a virus that worthwhile. Why hit the 2%, when you can hit the other 95% (or whatever the current share is!! The remaining 3% being Linux....which can also get viruses!!) However, with the popularity of iOS increasing, more and more viruses/bots will be released into the wild.

    This, somewhat, passes over their heads....

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    Minor nitpick. This is a trojan, not a virus.

    I know the average person doesn't understand what the difference is, but it's worth pointing out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    Minor nitpick. This is a trojan, not a virus.

    I know the average person doesn't understand what the difference is, but it's worth pointing out.
    So you wouldn't call having a bot on a Mac as being infected?

    That was the point of my previous post. The bot is still an outside influence, is it not?


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    Quote Originally Posted by aerospacemango View Post
    So you wouldn't call having a bot on a Mac as being infected?
    That wasn't what I meant.

    A computer virus is a computer program that can replicate itself and spread from one computer to another. The term "virus" is also commonly, but erroneously used, to refer to other types of malware, including but not limited to adware and spyware programs that do not have a reproductive ability.

    Viruses are sometimes confused with worms and Trojan horses, which are technically different. A worm can exploit security vulnerabilities to spread itself automatically to other computers through networks, while a Trojan horse is a program that appears harmless but hides malicious functions. Worms and Trojan horses, like viruses, may harm a computer system's data or performance. Some viruses and other malware have symptoms noticeable to the computer user, but many are surreptitious or simply do nothing to call attention to themselves. Some viruses do nothing beyond reproducing themselves. (Source)
    Semantics aside, you are correct that it is not a nice thing to have running on your computer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur View Post
    That wasn't what I meant.



    Semantics aside, you are correct that it is not a nice thing to have running on your computer.
    I know, and I apologise! Just a bit of crankiness creeping in, as I'm less than 2 hours away from a week off!!

    And I DO quite need it!!!

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    This is why I like the term malware. Covers it all.

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    Anyone following Naked Security has been aware of this risk for a very long time. It just needs better coverage.

    Mac malware devkits have been developed at last and waiting to pounce! I had the deputy head tell me about his Macbook and "Oh yes, it has no viruses!" One malware education lesson later...

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    Regardless of OS, perhaps the best advice is to uninstall or disable Java if you don't need it. According to Secunia, last year Java had over ten times as many vulnerabilities as Flash Player!

    Quote Originally Posted by Krebs on Security
    If you need Java on your Mac only for a specific application (such as OpenOffice), you can unplug it from the browser by disabling its plugin. In Safari, this can be done by clicking Preferences, and then the Security tab (uncheck “Enable Java”). In Google Chrome, open Preferences, and then type “Java” in the search box. Scroll down to the Plug-ins section, and click the link that says “Disable individual plug-ins.” If you have Java installed, you should see a “disable” link underneath its listing. In Mozilla Firefox for Mac, click Tools, Add-ons, and disable the Java plugin(s).

    I can’t stress this point strongly enough: If you don’t need Java, remove it from your system, whether you are a Mac or Windows user. If you need further convincing of my reasons for this recommendation, I’d encourage you to browse through some of my past Java-related posts. (Source)
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    Just a bit of crankiness creeping in, as I'm less than 2 hours away from a week off!!
    No worries. I sometimes get like that too.

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    Unfortunately I am forced to use Java because it is needed for a web-based application at work.

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    If the web app works in Google Chrome, it might be worth using this instead of Safari because it will display the prompt below whenever you visit websites containing Java apps. In theory this should prevent drive-by infections.

    Last edited by Arthur; 7th April 2012 at 11:36 AM.

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