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    ConDem Trying to Bait Anonymous Again...

    BBC News - Email and web use 'to be monitored' under new laws

    A record of every electronic communication you make? This will not start well, let alone end well.

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    ::sigh:: "Anonymous" don't matter, that concept/meme/whatever was bankrupt long before yet another round of 100% predictable dishonour amongst 1337 haxorz (would have thought some of them might have least watched A Scanner Darkly if not read it). The over-stated 'cyber-war', the Four Horsemen are the driving force, all Anonymous do or rather the media's love-affair with them does, is increase public acceptability of more New Puzzle Palaces <= makes whatever bits the Brits do all by themselves, even less the reaction of a bunch of age-independent juveniles seem a bit irrelevant don't you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAM View Post
    A record of every electronic communication you make?
    If the American government can get away with building the massive Utah Data Center for the NSA, the UK government probably thinks they can do the same?

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    That's what I linked ;b "New Puzzle Palaces" points to that and was a ref to the article author's book The Puzzle Palace (about NSA & Fort Meade)

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    Oops

    The Shadow Factory (by the same author) looks like a good book too.

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    Emails already are filtered and flagged for content... GCHQ has had this power for years.

    Side note, has anyone played the email game? Years ago before email became so prevalent as it is today, you could send an email with no 'dodgy' content, and an email suggesting you might want to off some political idiot... send both at the same time and see which arrives first, or rather the gap between receiving them... we tried several times and there was a noticeable difference between them!

    NOTE: I'm not responsible for MI5 swooping though your door if you try this now, this was many years ago!!

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    This is not UK government legislation. It's EU legislation. It's directive 2006/24/EC.

    It is being passed directly in to law without any Parliamentary debate.

    Data Retention: Email, Email Monitoring and ISPs « Where is Your Data?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREED View Post
    Side note, has anyone played the email game? Years ago before email became so prevalent as it is today, you could send an email with no 'dodgy' content, and an email suggesting you might want to off some political idiot... send both at the same time and see which arrives first, or rather the gap between receiving them... we tried several times and there was a noticeable difference between them!

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    I don't think it's the Government.

    I think it's Whitehall that are driving these things.

    We've had two and a bit different parties in power and they are both coming up with ID schemes and monitoring schemes and for want of a better phrase schemes to micro manage the population.

    Which is a little unlikely unless the Whitehall mandarins are pushing the issue to whoever is the home secretary at the time.

    Yes Minister was closer to the truth than people know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flatpackhamster View Post
    This is not UK government legislation. It's EU legislation. It's directive 2006/24/EC.
    :: OH NO IT ISN'T! ::

    If it were that then we've got it already and they wouldn't need any new law would they? This is different and troublesome, hence all the fabulous 'grassroots' lib dem agony.

    Talking of Lib Dems I wouldn't vote for one, but Julian Huppert's take is quite rational.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PiqueABoo View Post
    :: OH NO IT ISN'T! ::

    If it were that then we've got it already and they wouldn't need any new law would they? This is different and a troublesome, hence all the fabulous 'grassroots' lib dem agony.
    This is the 2011 evaluation of the 2006 Directive - EUROPA - Press Releases - Commission evaluates the Directive on retention of telecommunications data

    Here is the press release relating to the reforms of the 2006 Directive - EUROPA - Press Releases - Commission proposes a comprehensive reform of data protection rules to increase users' control of their data and to cut costs for businesses

    You'll note in the detail the standardisation of data retention by police and judicial services.



    That the Lib Dems don't know that their beloved EU project is the primary motivator for this vile legislation is their fault, not mine. If they were better informed about it perhaps they wouldn't be so in favour.

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    You'll be on The List[tm] then.

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    TBH if it keeps the country as a whole safer I'm.not too fussed if somebody wanted to listen to my phone calls or read my emails - I don't have anything to hide and its not that interesting anyway!!

    Plus its not as if they can do it Willy nilly they have to have some reasonable evidence to get a warrant.

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