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    Red face Suddenly... Upgrades!!

    It's that time, the moon is blue and pigs are flying... We're looking at upgrading everything.

    From the talks with our HT, it looks like we're considering 2 options.

    1) Thin clients with a VLE. [With a dedicated server?] Cheaper[?] but needs a lot of space we don't really have. [server-wise]

    2) Beastly computers [custom built?] and no upgrades for a long time. More expensive in the short term, but we should be able to get more than the recommended 2-5 years between upgrades. [With a switch from 32-bit XP to 64-bit something... [probably XP] to get round the 4GB RAM limit.]

    I'm in a meeting with a company tomorrow, to see what they're offering [along with the costs], so we may be able to save a bit of money.

    Anyone have any suggestions on what I should be asking? Usually, I'm just told about the meeting after the fact, along with the decision.

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    Personally I wouldnt touch 64-bit XP as an OS, its not good and drivers can cause nightmares.

    If your looking to save money, have you also considered things like ICT recycled machines ?, ICT-Direct are on here and my school deals with them, we have no complaints from them only praise, 3 years warranty on very well specced machines and it comes in a fair bit cheaper than buying brand new machines and they all handle windows 7 very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rich_tech View Post
    Personally I wouldnt touch 64-bit XP as an OS, its not good and drivers can cause nightmares.
    I use 64-bit at home... Which may explain why fn+F5 [my laptop's version of fn+F8] just kills all the drivers [Graphics, Wireless, Audio, Keyboard, Mouse... Power button.]

    Apart from that... it's fine.

    Le Edit: Just noticed the XP... I'm using totally legit Win7 I need to test Vista...
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    Windows 7 x64 rather than XP x64

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13;795137
    1) Thin clients with a VLE. [With a dedicated server?
    Cheaper[?] but needs a lot of space we don't really have. [server-wise]


    Anyone have any suggestions on what I should be asking? Usually, I'm just told about the meeting after the fact, along with the decision.

    I'd go with this. Expensive to start with but cheaper in the long term. TC is also good to allow home access, student devices etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by difinity View Post
    Windows 7 x64 rather than XP x64
    Suggestion or correction?

    Win7 with 2008r2 server is the ideal. We need a new server anyway. [I say need...]


    ^ Forget that... I want Win8 and server 2011. [I mean... If I HAVE to use Microsoft, I want it the be the current versions.]

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    Suggestion or correction?

    Win7 with 2008r2 server is the ideal. We need a new server anyway. [I say need...]


    ^ Forget that... I want Win8 and server 2011. [I mean... If I HAVE to use Microsoft, I want it the be the current versions.]
    if you go with ees licensing you should be able to upgrade to these when they are released iirc

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    Quote Originally Posted by sted View Post
    if you go with ees licensing you should be able to upgrade to these when they are released iirc
    If we go down the VLE route, isn't the OS on the client a moot point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-13 View Post
    If we go down the VLE route, isn't the OS on the client a moot point?
    It is. We can run Linux, Android and OSX/IOS clients no problem it reduces licensing costs NOT having EES sometimes. Again, Terminal services helps here.

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    TBH, by the time you've rolled out XP, ironed out bugs and got happy with it, Microsoft would have pulled XP support. I'd got for W7 TBH, it's bedded in now and proven with support aplenty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dos_Box View Post
    TBH, by the time you've rolled out XP, ironed out bugs and got happy with it, Microsoft would have pulled XP support. I'd got for W7 TBH, it's bedded in now and proven with support aplenty
    At the moment we have CC3. So we're stuck with XP and a 2003 server.

    Win7+2008r2 is only for/supported on CC4. Which would be ANOTHER thing we'd have to pay out for.

    And with the way things are going, we may not stick with an RM network.

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    It was either, or. Avoid Vista.

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    id be tempted to at least trial it without rm stuff its a way of making money go further and up to a point a vanilla network is better documented (though from what i know about rm its more of an overlay than a different beast

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    Quote Originally Posted by difinity View Post
    It was either, or. Avoid Vista.
    The vista comment was a whole other thing.

    Which I still haven't done... I need to test the vista disk I have to make sure it'll work properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rich_tech View Post
    Personally I wouldnt touch 64-bit XP as an OS, its not good and drivers can cause nightmares.
    Really? I have an entire x64 Win 7 site with no issues regarding the 64 bitiness and drivers or anything else. What problems are you having?

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