Thats almost our budget right there a year, did you plan a massive upgrade/install?
With us here we purchased upgrade licenses as we brought new PCs/Laptops, now though we pay an annual fee to MS which allows us to upgrade all our PCS to any future MS product. Even that fee is no where near your 60k and we are paying for roughly 200 staff.
It's why the saved 100k didnt exist for us, we already had been paying over 10 years worth of MS licenses, some allowed us to 2000-2003 others allowed us 2003-2007 etc.
This would then have opened the market to using smaller companies, or open source solutions which can inter-operate easily with the others.
No-one says you should switch the entire infrastructure in your school to open source, and anyone doing so without giving you a TCO breakdown which includes retraining etc... is pulling a fast one. However, saying you won't use it stubbornly simply means you're not doing your job right IMO - as keeping an open mind about all possible solutions to the ongoing problems in any network is key to what we do. If LibreOffice could replace Microsoft Office and reduced the TCO for you, even though it would involve retraining then that should surely be approached as a solution. Simply saying 'Office 2010 is better' isn't saying why it is better. What can a student in a school do in Office 2010 that they can't do in Libre Office?
Last edited by localzuk; 12th January 2012 at 09:58 AM.
It's because the school ICT vision states that we should allow students 'anywhere, anytime' access to resources on a ubiquity of devices. This is an educational vision as opposed to some thing we (IT) wanted to do. I believe it has a sound educational basis. To fulfil this vision we need to be able to allow students to use X device (ipad,iphone,laptop, tablet etc) at home and do homework. To enable this we use Citrix. To give students an MSOffice license at home means the home machine must be licensed for office use. This is extortionately expensive to do, esp when considering Citrix and Terminal server licensing. OpenOffice and Google Apps is much cheaper and fulfils all of the curriculum requirements. notwithstanding the 'used in industry argument' the main issue we have is with Capita forcing export to Excel - this could be solved by a govt if they chose.
teejay (12th January 2012)
What I was saying is if the Gov is pushing for Open Source we will indeed be pushing back telling them Office 2010 is what we want and we will kick up as much fuss as they can and now we are an academy we are pulled away from KCC (if they decide as well if Open Source is the way).
People aren't using LibreOffice? Why? I know why, its because you added it as a token measure to allow people to actually be inter-operable and so that kids aren't forced to buy MS Office. If it was installed instead of Office and people were given the basic training that they have had with Office, then its use would be just like that which Office gets. The 2 suites have directly comparable tools and capabilities.
Your argument is basically 'we're used to X, we're sticking with X' from what I can tell.
And to my anonymous fan who left the neg rep with "Blimey - another subject you are never wrong on. Is there no end to your greatness!", I'll say 'of course there's no end to my greatness!' 8-) Or... I have experience in this, being a network manager, managing a budget, seeing what my schools need and what can fulfill the requirements. If I couldn't, I wouldn't be very good at my job now would I? Am I not allowed an opinion?
Last edited by localzuk; 12th January 2012 at 11:01 AM.
From what I understand... It literally forces MS Office.
I've also heard of SIMs breaking if MS Office isn't installed in the default location.
If people here are fully licenced for Office 2010, It works well and they're happy with it, I don't care.
Likewise, if people here don't have MS Office and are happy with using Libre Office, I don't care.
If they need help/advice, I'll help/advise the best I can. Without any "X is better" comments.
[EDIT: That sounds like I'm having a go... I'm not. I'm just saying I'll help anyone/everyone.]
Where men are boys, women are men, children are FBI agents and no-one is allowed an opinion.
Last edited by X-13; 12th January 2012 at 11:15 AM. Reason: Adding a couple of replies to Mr. Localzuk.
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