@Abaddon - I wasn't suggesting that private schools have no money, merely that we are not as rich as we are commonly perceived to be.
We only charge £30,000+ per year per pupil. This covers the teaching costs, but not the maintenance of buildings and kit, development, improvements etc. I don't have to fight for cash, but it is hardly sloshing around. Other schools of similar standing have endowments an order of magnitude larger...
Depends, if I am paying 30k I'd expect a smaller class size then 30.
They either have to many teachers, or they're getting paid too much.
£30,000 x 25 = £750,000.
Three quarters of a million, per class, per year.
Something doesn't add up.
Teachers are on national pay scales. Support staff are not. £10k a term for the big independents (and AndrewC is at one of the oldest) is about normal, but pupils board.
Fees at my school are one third of the above figure with class sizes of 17 being regarded as the limit.
Independents are registered charities. We are non profit making, money earned is ploughed straight back into the school.
Numbers of staff are generally much higher at independents. We have fewer teaching assistants, but more admin, housekeeping and grounds staff.
... And specialist music, dance, art, drama, science, maths, language, etc teachers even in prep schools. This is the EES killer for us
Money certainly isn't too short where I work, but theres not so much sloshing around that it's wasted either. Quite a nice balance IMO - Plenty of cash to improve things but no massive pots of money that have to be spent on 'something, anything' either which is what wound me up about the state school I worked at - money was always being wasted on unnecessary crap just because it had to be used
Classes are usually 18-20 pupils here, so yeah smaller classes definately
To put all your minds at rest; yes our 100+ teachers are well paid, and housed in Winchester (fearfully expensive), the class sizes are small (under 20, maybe 10 or fewer for an A level class). We have 700 pupils, the vast majority board. Lots and lots of extra curricular stuff, and the teachers (almost) all work from early morning until 11PM at least one day a week in a boarding house. Most of the teachers are out at least two afternoons with sports teams or training, on top of the professional level coaching. Oh yes, and Saturday morning lessons to. Grooo...
Amongst those teachers, there are two Russian teachers, a French and German teacher an with Oxford First, followed by a Sorbone degree. Many of the scientists (where I am now) have good science or engineering degrees (often Oxbridge). We also teach Latin, Chinese and Japanese to A level.
That level of investment in the children brings results, we've stopped publishing in the national league tables as the kids do too many GCSEs early, and we do a lot of "Pre-U" instead of A levels. However, the school is considered to be in the top 5 academically every year. Oh, and they do more than one subject, which also goes towards explaining the discrepency, but I've also been reminded that some of the fees does indeed go into the building upkeep etc. What we can't do at the moment is increase the endowment to protect the school in the future.
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