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    Adobe - Education Announcement (1 Dec)

    Evening all,

    I read today that Adobe are to make a major education announcement tomorrow - 1st Dec.

    Hopefully it will me a massive decrease in the license fee for Master Edition.

    Keep eyes peeled.

    Gareth

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    They are going for an ees type pricing structure I believe from my chats with sales folks so based on full time staff count

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    Id also heard the same as @glennda re a new EES style subscription model a la Microsoft - rather than the current buy out and maintenance.

    Hoping this is true as it will really help schools adopt the products...

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    I spoke to Adobe UK the other month about this. I'm surprised they are not waiting until BETT2012 to do this. If this is true then hopefully the pricing will hopefully be a lot lower.

    It's about time they realised our kids are their future.

    Gareth

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    Finger crossed for some better licencing.

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    ^ Is that it?

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    I don't know if that's it, but they are also working on a new licensing model too - but there are a bunch of conditions attached to it. Can't go into too much detail on here, as the guy from Adobe who came to see us said it isn't finalised and isn't 'public' yet (although people in general know already). Basically, they're introducing a subscription model for licensing.

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    I'm not sure if this is the same thing or not, but a subscription/ees-style offering has been made available to us for at least a couple of months - info sent out by Phoenix Software as well as Softcat (I think)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mb2k01 View Post
    I'm not sure if this is the same thing or not, but a subscription/ees-style offering has been made available to us for at least a couple of months - info sent out by Phoenix Software as well as Softcat (I think)
    There's a pilot been running, but it isn't the final scheme from what the Adobe bod said.

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    someone told us that adobe were reducing there prescence at bett this year ? not sure how true this is

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodham View Post
    someone told us that adobe were reducing there prescence at bett this year ? not sure how true this is
    This is also true. They aren't going to be there according to the guy I spoke to, with the money going into their education/training/cpd scheme instead.

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    Well I certainly hope that the blog post above isn't the announcement they were going to make. If it is I cannot see us moving to it. We have CS3 Master Suite.

    I want to see a yearly fee like MS which is so low it tempts the schools to consider it. Again I am a strong believer that our pupils are the future for these companies. If it's in school then it would benefit Adobe as the pupils may/could put pressure on their parents to purchase it (or elements of it).

    [Edit - I've edited this to reflect more what I meant to say - but that didn't come across in the original message]

    I'll read it again later to make sure I haven't missed the point again. I'm in a rush.

    Soirry guys,

    Gareth
    Last edited by garethedmondson; 1st December 2011 at 05:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garethedmondson View Post
    I cannot see us moving to it. We have CS3 Master Suite.
    Might be a good deal for a primary school that doesn't currently use Photoshop or Premier, though.

    If it's in school there is pressure (maybe) at home to purchase.
    Isn't that the sort of thing we'd want to avoid? If you want pupils to use specific software at home then it should be freely available to them. Adobe should be able to provide home use of some kind for pupils who's school purchase the appropriate subsription - either home-installable copies of the software or by simply making the applications web-based so they can be used in a browser via the schools VLE or similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhicks View Post
    Isn't that the sort of thing we'd want to avoid? If you want pupils to use specific software at home then it should be freely available to them. Adobe should be able to provide home use of some kind for pupils who's school purchase the appropriate subsription - either home-installable copies of the software or by simply making the applications web-based so they can be used in a browser via the schools VLE or similar.
    We want them to learn transferable skills, but there's no reason we shouldn't allow them to use the software they'll meet in the real world. If they go into design, Photoshop will be the tool of choice, not Gimp, but they should know what the smudge tool does in general.

    Trying to move head long into an entirely free, online based system is unrealistic and not entirely useful to the students IMO.

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