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    Pay freeze ends 2013, then 2 years of 1% pay rises from what I understand

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    It is getting increasingly depressing that every time George Osborne opens his mouth it's to downgrade the economic outlook. And yet still he persists with the cut-backs line of thinking. And we take yet another real-terms pay-cut on whatever fronts he can manage. Sigh.

    On a related note, I did see Osborne described as "a ghost trapped inside a sausage" the other day, which is a brilliant image, and eerily accurate.

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    Sort of on the whole topic of cuts - we're being called in to a meeting today to discuss how the school can save some more money, my money is on more redundancies.

    That's right, those of us who have hauled our rear ends in to work on strike day are very likely about to find out we're at risk of redundancy again. The timing is impeccable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LosOjos View Post
    That's right, those of us who have hauled our rear ends in to work on strike day are very likely about to find out we're at risk of redundancy again. The timing is impeccable.
    Don't worry. The revolution will start soon enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LosOjos View Post
    discuss how the school can save some more money
    Maybe add to the discussion how the school can make some more money - ie look at income streams so that you don't have to look to save money...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willott View Post
    Maybe add to the discussion how the school can make some more money - ie look at income streams so that you don't have to look to save money...
    I have a few suggestions to make that I've been banging on about [to deaf ears] since I started here, maybe they'll finally listen!





    More likely they know exactly how they're going to save money and will disregard any and all suggestions. As usual.

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    I don't mind the 1% pay rise particularly, its better than nothing.

    But it really makes me angry to see benefits going up by 5%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LosOjos View Post
    will disregard any and all suggestions. As usual.
    Suggest redundancy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zag View Post
    I don't mind the 1% pay rise particularly, its better than nothing.

    But it really makes me angry to see benefits going up by 5%.
    Indeed. By the time this is all over most of us will have lost 30%ish of our wages due to inflation* (including the last few years of pay freezes)

    *Which btw the quoted 5% is a little misleading as its calculations take into account thing which really shouldn't be. For people who are struggling, who don't buy the luxury items and services, real inflation is even higher.

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    If you work for the LA and are not at the top of your pay grade, don't you get annual increments which amount to a pay rise anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparkeh View Post
    If you work for the LA and are not at the top of your pay grade, don't you get annual increments which amount to a pay rise anyway?
    True, but that only takes a couple or three years to get there, and I assume is intended to reflect your growing experience and capability. But once you're there, the cost of living increase has vanished and we just suffer inflation instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshammer_dj View Post
    given that inflation is currently around 5% and that We have had no pay increases or cost of living for the past 2 years the reality is that the changes mean that instead of losing 5% per year we are now only going to lose 4%!!
    Don't public sector workers get more money each year for long service?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofsanta View Post
    True, but that only takes a couple or three years to get there, and I assume is intended to reflect your growing experience and capability. But once you're there, the cost of living increase has vanished and we just suffer inflation instead.
    Ahh, someone's posted and answered that.

    So it doesn't count as a pay rise because.... ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flatpackhamster View Post
    Don't public sector workers get more money each year for long service?
    Apart from the first couple of years building up the scale, no. Just another myth that people like to shout about when talking about how good the public sector get it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flatpackhamster View Post
    Ahh, someone's posted and answered that.

    So it doesn't count as a pay rise because.... ?

    Opps, didn't see that. Of course its a pay rise, but as said it is a reflection on experience, just like most other jobs. And as said, it only happens for a couple of years then you get a nice 4-6% reduction from then on.
    Last edited by j17sparky; 30th November 2011 at 03:49 PM.

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    The 'yearly increments' are not linked to time worked, they are based on performance. If you don't hit your performance targets, you shouldn't be moving up the scale.



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