captaincharisma (28th November 2011)
You know the good things about forums like this are often unappreciated; the variety of people, experience and knowledge.
It's an open forum, you're all entitled to your opinion whatever that may be. Neg repping - pettyness. (-10 for that one)!
Anyway, I digress.....
captaincharisma (28th November 2011)
It is incredibly sad that Football still hasn't managed to identify players who may be prone to this (or, indeed ex-players).
You only have to look at the cases of ex-QPR defender Dave Clement, Justin Fashanu, and the German goalkeeper Robert Enke to realise the depression is endemic within sport, and particularly in these cases, football.
It is also very sad that the news of another British casualty in Afghanistan is buried by this story.
God bless you Gary Speed and sincere condolences to your family!
I live with someone who suffered from depression (and still gets episodes) and it's very scarey.
Uni basically sent her head west and a few years on the mental pills got her more or less back on track again. From the outside of our house nobody would have a clue that there were issues. When at parties or any gatherings she was fine, happy and very out going. At home she would sometimes spend all weekend in bed because whe couldnlt face the world and thought she was useless and ugly etc etc etc. She then got weaned off the pills by the GP and all was good for a few years until our daughter was born. Basically this took her back to square one!
Same scenario of putting up a public persona but behind closed doors it was tough! Back on the pills she went and again they seemed to help her get her brain into gear again.
I know she isn't as severe as other people and now that we both have more of an understanding of mental illness we now feel that we can recognise when the beast within is about to rear it's ugly head and supress the bugger.
Mental illness is evil. It can be triggered with no notice and the person within that you know and love is no longer themselves for whatever the period of time that that beast has you by the short and curlys!
My ex girlfriend is bi-polar, and having gone through the darkest periods of her life, after our son was born, is now on a cocktail of tablets to keep her straight.
The things that I have seen.....
Depression, in whatever form it takes, is one of the most debilitating illnesses there is.
I would highly recommend ANYONE who feels that they might be heading for it to speak to their Doctor. Forewarned is forearmed, and something CAN be done about it.
CESIL (28th November 2011)
Also, bodminman's experiences show that however 'together' poor Gary Speed appeared on TV the day before, he may well have been in bits underneath - it is amazing what humans are able to cover up.
Selfish is still the wrong word - when you are trapped in the fear and pain, you can't even think of anything or anyone else, except perhaps to believe that the world/your family/your friends would be better off if you were not there. This is nonsense of course but it is how people in that state feel.
I was concentrating more on the fact of where, then why anyway. For someone to say they love their kids then to put their kids in a situation where they may find their parents lifeless body hanging from the ceiling is a bit off (I'm not talking specifically about this case, just in general).
But I think I'll have to agree with DT2 here for this thread, I'm a staying out after this post as I know where it will lead
I have absolutely no interest whatsoever in football and in fact I'd never even heard of Gary Speed until seeing the news but that's irrelevant; my thoughts go out to Gary's family and friends, I hope they don't blame themselves in any way for what has happened as that would haunt them. I hope they know that they were loved by Gary and I hope that they get the proper advice from a psychologist who can explain the way he must have been feeling to get to that point. RIP.
I had post natal depression after my first child.
There were two certainties in my mind:
1. I was a total failure
2. I couldn't let anyone else know how I felt, because that would just prove number 1.
I had to be seen to be coping and doing brilliantly no matter what.
When I finally cracked (my Mum realised that all was not well and forced me to 'fess up and then get help) getting help made so much difference. Six months of prozac made me into a different person. Not high as a kite, just normal.
My husband reckons now, 18 years later, that we'd have been divorced if I'd carried on the way I was. He says the difference the prozac made was apparent within a week... and he hadn't believed it would make any difference at all. At the time, he just thought it was me behaving badly and I needed to pull myself together. He's now much more depression-aware and dealing with his own mother recently felt much better able to do so.
It's not something to be ashamed of. If you feel like I did, people can help. Drugs are addictive, but are strictly supervised these days and they can help; so don't reject them out of hand.
As a sufferer of depression I feel this families pain. Though am fine just now I know only too well it can creep in there when you least expect it and as said by some others it is the most devastating thing ever. No one will ever know what was in this guys mind what drove him to it. Sad all round and devastating for his family left behind.
It would actually seem that the Daily Star was about to "out" him.
Source: the tap: Is Gary Speed's Death Suspicious?
Now, whether this is true, or not, it seems more likely than the first rumour....No?
RIP Speedy. Something must have been so wrong within his head for him to do what he did
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