dave.81 (24th November 2011)
Jimmy Carr is in the papers again for a joke about Down Syndrome.
The joke was (someone feel free to edit it out if they feel it's not appropriate to read here):
Now as always certain groups cry outrage, but in the DVD of his tour where he said this, he also made a VERY interesting point. He said that the audience are the regulators of comedy. If an act makes a joke and nobody laughs, that joke will be considered not funny and dropped from the act, if they laugh, it's in. So as an audience, people have the choice to laugh/leave/whatever. He also said that he tells jokes, no motive or reasoning behind them, he just tells jokes and thats it. If you are offended, that is your choice to be offended.Originally Posted by Jimmy Carr
I'm not siding with what he said but the part about the audience is correct though. If he made that joke and not one single person laughed, he'd drop that joke. So to criticise him for saying it should be evened out by criticising the thousands who have seen him and laughed at it.
dave.81 (24th November 2011)
*I won't repeat the joke as even I believe it goes too far but its basically about how to get a baby to give u a BJ - Even chubby brown drew the line well before that!
If you don't like his jokes don't watch him. Quite simple really.
Same goes for the PC brigade after Ricky Gervais.
I dont think any comedy needs to be offensive to such an extent, yeah i will watch comedians like Jimmy Carr but i think, look at comedians like Lee Evans, Ross Nobel, Shappi Corsandi and the like, genuinly funny without being offensive
having watched a comedian die on stage with the first half of a routine filled with innuendo and knob gags, and get thoroughly appreciated in the second half by switching to political satire. I can confirm that jimmy carr is right, the audience regulates comedy. The question is the limits of taste that the comedian in question is prepared to push.
Some people will be 'offended' and this will be used as censorship, especially when they are taken out of context. See Family Guy or take Lenny Bruce and Bill Hicks. They wouldn't be as funny doing 'Lee Evans' Jokes.
If you don't like it, don't watch. If lots don't like it then they'll change the act.
People judge a comedian based on what he is known for...lee evans would never do jokes like jimmy carr, and jimmy carr would never do jokes like lee evans. Frankie Boyle + Jimmy Carr = Highly offensive - yet two of the countries most successful comedians. Lee Evans + Peter Kay = Not offensive - yet two of the countries most successful comedians.
pshuttle (24th November 2011)
Explain to me why babies giving blowjobs is funny? I'm sorry but no intelligent or civilised person could find that anything but offensive.
Last edited by j17sparky; 24th November 2011 at 02:28 PM.
I'm intrigued as to what Division the PC Brigade belongs to.
andyturpie (24th November 2011)
I found Jimmys first dvd or two to be funny but after that it seems he's pushing too hard to the point I find myself cringing rather than laughing as he goes too far. I haven't seen his latest DVD and probably won't bother.
Then again there's an audience for everything, I've never found Ricky Gervais to be funny but many find him hilarious
I think (not an exact quote here) that Jimmy Carr also said on the same tour "my job is to make you laugh, to produce endorphins and make you happy. If you've laughed at my gig, job done".
A comedians job is to make you laugh. If you laugh, he has succeeded.
In the same way a jester might have been seen as an idiot; his job was to entertain, he entertained.
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