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    SST & Edugeek

    right since conference there have been some talks (sounds all very secretive but not honest) anyway specialist school trust (SST) want to work with edugeek few ideas have been battered around and one of them is to create a training material for leas/schools to use in training ict support staff.

    Just to let you know we have made it clear to sst we are independent and not working for sst but working with them..

    Anyway plan is for me, tony and anybody else who wants to come to have meeting with women from sst at my school at end of this month to discuss ideas etc.

    Once date is worked out will post it and then anybody who wants to attend can let me know but will takes comments off the board with me .

    Cheers

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    Re: SST & Edugeek

    here is sst site for peoples info www.specialistschools.org.uk/

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    Re: SST & Edugeek

    How many women

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    Re: SST & Edugeek

    Sounds a great idea, and if I had the time I would definitely come along (esp. since you mentioned a meeting with women ;-)

    All the best with the project anyway- if you don't mind keep me informed- I'd like to see the results of this.

    Paul

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    Re: SST & Edugeek

    will you can get involved this is group effort yes we are meeting with her but we want your input want ideas have you got...

    once we have basic project/idea its is you lot that will add/suggest etc


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    Re: SST & Edugeek

    We need these large(ish) organisations to advise on staffing levels - Becta won't do it but maybe someone else will.

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    Re: SST & Edugeek

    also nearer time i will post a document with all the comments/ideas etc which can basis of what we talk about at the meeting.

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    Re: SST & Edugeek

    @russdev: I suggest you may want to email it to your 'lady-friends' too so that they can come prepared.

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    Re: SST & Edugeek

    Women? erm ... only one, the other two are blokes ... John and Tony (not me ... another one!)

    One of the ideas for keeping things sort of seperate is that we use schools such as mine, who are linked to the SST via a number of things (we are a Technology College and we are also on the ICT Register), to provide training based around materials based around the expertise of the denizens of Edugeek, and also based around what we actually reckon NMs and Techies truly need.

    Hands-on workshops ... stripped down versions of things like FITS ... you give us the ideas and we will see what we can do with it.

    The more ideas we have to put on the table the better and since the SST are one of the stakeholder writing the new route map for ICT in schools (managed by Becta and with SST, QCA, NCSL, KGB ...erm ... maybe not that one but you know what I mean) then it really is a good idea to get in there with this.

    If anyone has ideas then step forward in this thread or PM Russ or myself.

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    Re: SST & Edugeek

    yes i will of course email it to people attending meeting so that they are prepared...

    some point today will post on the wiki a page where i will keep all the latest info on it etc..

    Russ

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    Re: SST & Edugeek

    One question I would ask would be about funding for training ICT Technicians.

    We are a Science College and have NAACE accreditation but we still lack any real funding to send people on worthwhile courses to improve the technicians basic knowledge.

    To find worthwhile courses covering Server admin, Exchange etc for approx £300 is difficult. If SST could assist in this then it would be money well spent.

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    Re: SST & Edugeek

    of course will ask just be ware that stt are not in position to provide funding but we will certainly suggest if sst can help in anyway of getting funding for ict support staff then it would be useful...

    Russ

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    Re: SST & Edugeek

    This is the bit that becomes difficult.

    Remember the bruhaha over the BBC providing materials for free and commercial companies saying "what about us?" ... that led to eLCs (ok ... over simplified but you get the idea)

    There are many M$ certified training centres that have a stock price for the training. If we offer specific training based around M$ training we will cause problems.

    The general idea is to offer hands-on workshops based around "This is how we do it, this is how a few other people do it, and here are some alternatives."

    There is also the matter of trying to work it around the Becta technician competency levels ... always a good one for justifying a pay rise.

    Certification will be an issue ... but I suppose that means speaking with Becta and NAACE ...

    erm ... is it too late to back out Russ?

    Seriously though ... this will take a certain amount of work, and we don't want to double up the work that is already being done by SST/NAACE/Becta ... just use what they have as guidelines / advice and build on it with the huge array of specialist knowledge and experience that we have here in this group.

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    Re: SST & Edugeek

    I understand what you are both saying -= my point is that SST provide extra funding when granting College Status, which goes towards anything which will enhance teaching and learning. This includes anything from a new book to a new building.

    Somewhere in the middle of that must be the provision for training. However, I'm not sure whether this is specifically targeted or is left for the individual specialist college to decide. It would be nice if a percentage or even a fixed amount be allocated, if it's not already.

    (I may edit this if I can pin down my College Director long enough to ask him )

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    Re: SST & Edugeek

    ok i see what you mean i thought you meant ot provide training to anybody or any school but what you want is when the school gets sst status that % is fixed for training...

    Right not a problem

    Be warned sst might not act on these but your point will be put across

    Also this meeting is talk projects edugeek and sst we can work on so if you have anyideas training is just one of the many ideas being banted around...

    so willing to look at any project idea you have remember this is global thing and ongoing thing so we wont have meeting 6 montsh later produce a resource.

    you the members/ict support community in genereal will be ones making this move forward...

    also if people want to be invovled in driving this project and cant attend meeting pm or tony...

    Russ

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