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    Still on the Quest for a new PC

    Hi again guys, im still asking questions about recommended parts for a new gaming set up

    am i better with a Intel i5 2500K or an AMD Bulldozer FX-6100? does the 6core of the bulldozer make a difference? they are both multiplier unlocked so can be overclocked well but any one with insight or experience of either one or both is very welcome

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    Gaming - don't get a Bulldozer setup. I like AMD stuff, and for myself I buy AMD CPUs. I wouldn't recommend to others though, especially at this price point - they're competitive at the budget end but not mid/high end here. The 2500K, with an AMD 6850 or Nvidia GTX 560Ti would make a great machine (with an SSD boot drive and plenty of RAM). The actual GPU you get depends on your preferred gaming resolution - those I mentioned will cope with full HD well enough.

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    If i go AMD am i better with a Phenom II then? are they as good as the i5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaleStorm View Post
    If i go AMD am i better with a Phenom II then? are they as good as the i5?
    Not a chance, sadly fact is that Intel lead AMD by a country mile at the moment. i5 2500k is more or less the processor to get at the moment, nothing else makes sense.

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    Generally, no. The Phenom II hits a pretty sweet spot as a package, with a decent processor and supporting board being pretty cheap. You're even better off with Thuban core processors, but these can be too close in price to superior Intel chips - I like the look of the 960T Black Edition which is an unlocked quad-core Thuban for £100.

    The Phenom II 1100T (top model) generally outperforms Bulldozer in gaming though, especially in performance/£. At this price point, you're into i5 territory.

    Much of this is fairly moot though - most modern games are very heavily GPU dependent. Getting the right GPU is more important overall for gaming.

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    Fair enough, im just looking at it budget wise, but i suppose in the long run an i5 is a better investment...might ask for some components as Xmas presents hehe

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    Don't get AMD, Intel 2500k is still the best bang / buck CPU out there as it stands (until the new Sandy Bridge stuff comes out anyway)

    I can confirm that 2500k \ 560Ti \ SSD is a very good combo

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    so im thinking this looks like a good deal eBay - The UK's Online Marketplace, this combined with a GeForce 560Ti and the OCZ Vertex 60gb (as they are now only around £55) and a 750watt PSU...take me to around £450quid...what do you guys think?

    edit: ive already got a Arctic Freezer 14 from my old system for cooling aswell

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    Personally - Crucial M4 64GB (they're doing pretty well with the new firmware!) with a SATA 6Gbps supporting motherboard. My issue with that bundle is putting an overclock friendly, beastie CPU like the 2500K into a budget board based on H61. Full ATX would help - H67, P67 upwards would be better (but costlier, obviously). Fast RAM is cheap now so that's a bonus.

    Just to check, what resolution is your monitor?

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    Monitor is 1280x1024 at the moment but im also looking at buying a full HD widescreen in the not too distant future aswell...i was thinking of buying the bundle with the cheaper board and then when i do need to push the processor more and i can afford it better upgrading the board to one of the ASUS P67 boards

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    ok so now im looking at this setup, as it works out at around the same price as before

    CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K
    MoBo: Asus P8P67 (with b3 revision)
    RAM: Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB (2x4GB)
    GFX: Asus GeForce GTX 560

    Does that look good as a future proofed setup?

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    Pretty good - the GTX560 is a slightly hobbled 560Ti but not massively. Close to a 6870 in many things - in fact for the price the 560 and 6870 are very close and you should make your own judgement based on the games you'll play.

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    Put the bit of extra for the Ti, much better performance over the standard 560

    I've got a personal vendetta against Asus after their awful build quality a few years back so would go for this board, again very good performance for the price...

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    well i've only really ever had Nvidia, and never had a problem...but not really had an experiance of ATI cards, except low end Xseries stuff at work
    im willing to change though if the performance is worth it

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    @gshaw i was looking at that board as it was same price point, i currently run an Asus P5N-E and really like it, but i know MSIs are really good aswell as we use them at school and they are real workhorses



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