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    New Graphics Card

    Hi all, im looking for a new graphics card, as my current Nvidia 8600GT wont cut it anymore especially for Battlefield3, CoD:MW3 and Skyrim

    im looking at spending a maximum of £85-£90
    am i best off with ATI or Nvidia?

    I dont understand the technicallitys of how graphics cards work particlarly i have seen this and thought its a good deal but are there better ones out there for the same price? MSI GTS 450 2GB DDR3 Dual DVI VGA HDMI PCI-E Graphics.. | Ebuyer.com

    The rest of my system is well spec'd Core2Quad (2.4ghz) 8GB DDR2 and an Asus ROG mainboard...please help me out

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    Something like a ATI Radeon HD 4890 maybe. Not sure how it will perform with bf3 though.

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    HIS ATI Radeon HD 6770 IceQ X Turbo 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card [H677QNT1GD]

    Reduced to from £100 to £90 looks ok... ATi 6770 1GB

    The MSI card:
    Core Clock Speed(MHz) - 783
    Memory Clock Speed(MHz) - 1000

    The ATI Card:
    Core Clock: 880MHz
    Memory Clock: 5000MHz (Effective)
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    6770 1GB, GTX 550Ti 1GB, 6790 1GB, GTX 460 768MB. Compare those, and see which suits.

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    im guessing im better off with 1GB of GDDR5 than 2GB of GDDR3 because of the clock difference?

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    Depends on the game, if it has a huge lot of textures then the 2GB will be better but most games will probably not use that much memory hence the faster clock would be better in those cases.

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    im thinking the 2GB may be beneficial in BF3 with the HD texture pack then....i remember reasing somewhere that the texture pack was something like an extra 5GB ontop of the rest of the gamefiles....is this true?

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    Its the resolution that makes the difference in relation to gfx ram. If you play at 1080p 2gb will be better, if you play at 1024x768 it won't make a difference.

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    its all starting to make more sense now looks like the 450nvidia will be fine then, i am slightly tempted to sell my current gaming PC and buy a new one tho, or sell the bits and buy a upgrade bundle from overclockers or something

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    I would disagree - due to the large amount of texture throughput, faster memory will be better. A large amount of (much) slower frame buffer will not be much use - if you run the card up to resolutions that'll need those textures, the card will be bogged down anyway.

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    To be honest, even if you upgrade your graphics card your CPU will still be a bottleneck, BF3 especially is quite heavy on the CPU.

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    i realise that but it shouldn't be too bad, not super like and i5 or i7, but its a reasonable speed quad-core using the full FSB speed of the board

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3s-gtech View Post
    I would disagree - due to the large amount of texture throughput, faster memory will be better. A large amount of (much) slower frame buffer will not be much use - if you run the card up to resolutions that'll need those textures, the card will be bogged down anyway.
    Its again down to the game and the system. If it has slower CPU/Memory/HD then having the textured on the card is going to be way quicker than pulling them from the system even with a lower clock speed. Its about how much the GPU can consume and how much is stuffed in the memory as opposed to how much needs to be pushed across the PCI-E bus from the shared main memory and even from HD/SSD. If you have lower quality settings and res it is going to have less in the GPU memory and so it can still hold the whole set of information, just at a lowered quality. Push the settings and you end up with more data in the working set that you need to render the scene and so if the problem set is bigger than the memory you end up swapping which kills performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeBloggs View Post
    HIS ATI Radeon HD 6770 IceQ X Turbo 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card [H677QNT1GD]

    Reduced to from £100 to £90 looks ok... ATi 6770 1GB

    The MSI card:
    Core Clock Speed(MHz) - 783
    Memory Clock Speed(MHz) - 1000

    The ATI Card:
    Core Clock: 880MHz
    Memory Clock: 5000MHz (Effective)
    those HIS ICE-Q cards run very quietly. Both my PCs have those in.



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