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    Only Wireless no desktops for new build

    Any Schools that have gone completely wireless with laptops. Our new build is going that way.
    Just interested in making a visit to somewhere that has done it and the experiences. Laptop damage, charging etc.
    They are even want DT (using solidworks), media and Art to use wireless on laptops. I have my views but would like to get the thoughts of others.

    I am in the south
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    *ahem*

    BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozydave View Post
    Any Schools that have gone completely wireless with laptops. Our new build is going that way.
    Just interested in making a visit to somewhere that has done it and the experiences. Laptop damage, charging etc.
    They are even want DT (using solidworks), media and Art to use wireless on laptops. I have my views but would like to get the thoughts of others.

    I am in the south
    Cheers
    I know of a school near me that does this - will pm you the name.

    Although they also have fixed desktops for some stuff as laptops can't cope.

    They also have a type of buy your own solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Domino View Post
    *ahem*

    BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    You took the word from my mouth!

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    Currently in the process of getting one of my schools re-cabled as someone thought it a good idea to make even the fixed desktops wireless. All running over a dodgy 56MB wireless network.

    Groan.

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    I know exactly what you need for that build, a new job to escape to. Eek.

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    We dont have all wireless for obvious reasons but our lower school is all wireless - consists of around 300 laptops and some ipads serving about 300 kids. Being lower school they dont use what youd describe as hardware hungry software like photoshop etc - more the likes of office, scratch, and google earth etc.

    Happy to have PM discussion if you want to know more.

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    Be prepared to switch the Laptops Wireless back on more than once a day or try to source laptops that you can disable the wireless switch. Also get someone in to do a proper wireless survey and get this documented to save a few headaches.

    Get departments to take responsibility of thier own laptops (i.e. putting away, switching off etc) when a laptop goes missing, gets damaged etc. it is that department who will suffer without a laptop.

    Laptops are generally more time consuming to administer.

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    I'll put it this way - we have a couple hundred laptops here and a couple hundred desktops. Support-wise, we have to fix 5 laptops a day for every 1 desktop related issue.

    Wireless is full of little glitches all the time.

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    Just come from a meeting
    Defo, 3 fixed PC suites .1500 laptops personal laptops for students.
    The 3 PC suites are for IT and Business studies so it will be Media, art, and DT with 3D modelling on laptops
    Madness

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    Do you not get a say in it?

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    Nope. The standard response I keep getting is
    The building is designed to government standards.

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    With that number of devices, you had better have rock solid wireless, with redundant management controllers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozydave View Post
    Nope. The standard response I keep getting is
    The building is designed to government standards.
    Do they class that as a sign of quality? I'd class it as a sign of impending doom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozydave View Post
    Nope. The standard response I keep getting is
    The building is designed to government standards.
    I'm sorry, but that is the most ridiculous comment I've heard in a while. What does it actually mean?

    I'm hoping your servers aren't going to be wireless, so they're 'government compliant'.

    With 1500 laptops, you're going to need a lot of access points. Maybe someone needs to be told they're going to be connected with network cables. I've come across it before that people in management positions think wireless literally means no wires at all. It obviously needs to get data and power from somewhere, which means you're going to or already have cables running to each area where you require wireless connectivity.

    In my experience, whiteboards + laptops just do not work well in practice. A dedicated desktop with cables already plugged in 'ready to use' keeps problems low.

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