General Chat Thread, Steve Jobs : Visionary or not? in General; Originally Posted by Dos_Box
Hmm. Not really, I had a good idea and took it as far as I was ...
7th October 2011, 04:31 PM #91
So you are all visionary's
Originally Posted by Dos_Box
7th October 2011, 04:33 PM #92
Last edited by Dos_Box; 7th October 2011 at 07:10 PM.
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LosOjos (7th October 2011)
8th October 2011, 08:00 AM #93
10th October 2011, 04:26 PM #94
One last link, kind of touching on the Daily Mail article, but with some very good quotes in there:
This Dianamania is a slur on Jobs ? The Register
Let’s remember Jobs for what he achieved. He’d be the first to agree that there are more important things in the world than media devices, and he made that case very eloquently
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jamesb (10th October 2011)
10th October 2011, 04:57 PM #95
Steve Jobs, not a visionary but a maker of decent phones, I pick mine up on Friday
10th October 2011, 04:59 PM #96
- Rep Power
I believe the Apple computer - compared to a Windows machine - is a far faster and more efficient machine. A computer geek friend of mine who knows his stuff said comparing the efficiency, speed and potential of the Apple machine to the Windows machine was like comparing a jet engine to a propeller engine. Didn't Steve Jobs invent the Apple computer? If so, in my opinion he is visionary in the sense that he was first to come up with that particular computer design.
10th October 2011, 05:00 PM #97
No, Steve Wozniak was the brains behind the technology at the beginning of Apple, and since then a string of genius engineers have been.
Originally Posted by MACKIO
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MACKIO (10th October 2011)
10th October 2011, 05:08 PM #98
Superb in the Rebel Alliance, but whos visionary became the Empire.
10th October 2011, 06:00 PM #99
Adjective: (esp. of a person) Thinking about or planning the future with imagination or wisdom: "a visionary leader".
Would suggest yes then.
Noun: A person with original ideas about what the future will or could be like.
Would open debates around the term "original" no doubt and call into question "Job's the Visionairy" The iPod wasn't a visonairy product (mp3 players had been around forever), but it's did change the game and that wasn't by accident. Making it work took vision becuase the existing soultions weren't working. (Apply that to tablets, and smart phones)
Synonyms: adjective. fanciful - imaginary
noun. dreamer - daydreamer
yes and yes then.
For me, "Jobs' as a visionairy" was never in question. I think the arguments/debates about this often gets into his involvement in the technical side of things which tbh, I have no idea about his expertise in.
Always going to be a hot topic this one wasn't it
10th October 2011, 07:32 PM #100
Please don't just focus on the iDevices. Jobs achieved a lot more before anything started with 'i'...
Originally Posted by laptopsandspares
11th October 2011, 10:21 AM #101
11th October 2011, 10:54 AM #102
No no, of course not. It was just my way of illustrating how some might argue the things Job's was involved in weren't "original" for the case against his "Visionairy" description. To my mind the technology involved almost isn't relevant, more the application of, and cohesion brought to table by Mr Job's ideas wether it was iSomething, animation, marketing etc etc ...
Originally Posted by localzuk
11th October 2011, 11:21 AM #103
All of that rather hinges on which Mac and which PC you're talking about, doesn't it? They've both been around for 30 years.
Originally Posted by MACKIO
11th October 2011, 11:30 AM #104
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