General Chat Thread, 55 in a 30 limit! in General; Originally Posted by Jose
when I get in my car and drive on a motorway late at night to get ...
9th September 2011, 01:11 PM #91
I think the biggest problem this country has is that most drivers aren't sensible enough to make those judgement calls, or feel they're adequately qualified enough to make a decision themselves. You only have to see how many people jump red lights or block box junctions to see that driving standards are at an all time low. I remember a time when if someone made a mistake on the road, they'd generally put their hand up and gesture an apology. Now if you dare to rebuke someone with your horn or lights you get nothing but abuse, road rage or even being followed.
Originally Posted by Jose
But until this country has zero avoidable accidents on the motorway (I saw an amazing one a few weeks ago where a woman just pulled out into the middle lane and knocked a biker off. It closed the motorway for 4 hours and gridlocked all the surrounding roads, and daily see people driving too close and too fast) and no-one being caught by speed cameras then there is no way this government will reward any good driving.
Last edited by Gibbo; 9th September 2011 at 01:14 PM.
9th September 2011, 01:40 PM #92
My wife and I were discussing the public information films that used to be shown many years ago, whatever happened to them? I still remember "Only a fool breaks the two second rule" even though I couldn't drive at the time it was shown. If some of those were revived it wouldn't stop all accidents but at least it might reduce the number.
9th September 2011, 01:43 PM #93
I got caught doing 49 in a 30 just recently. First time in 13 years riding motocycles.
Anything over 39 and there's no chance of 'doing a course'. I got a £60 fine and three points. Which has made my car insurance go up, not that it's cheap anyway.
9th September 2011, 02:02 PM #94
Tailgaters - I've never understood why people dismiss that as a reason you were a couple of mph over. People can pressure you into going faster, especially if they are driving a raggy old tranny van/hgv/etc. Besides which the whole point of speed limits is for safety correct? So how is it in the interest of safety to have someone 2 foot off your bumper so that when a kid steps out the guy behind pushes you straight into them?
Originally Posted by CESIL
Most of the time all you need to do is slow down even more and they get the idea, but I remeber once driving over the moors from the lakes at night with a HGV following me, he certainly forced me to do the speed HE wanted to do
Last edited by j17sparky; 9th September 2011 at 02:08 PM.
9th September 2011, 02:09 PM #95
The (fixed) cameras in Northants have been switched off. Since then there has been an increase in drivers exceeding the speed limit, however, there has not been an increase in accidents.
9th September 2011, 02:19 PM #96
The correct thing to do is to slow down until the gap they ARE willing to leave is appropriate for the speed. I picked up a speeding ticket for 36 in a 30 after someone pulled in behind me and insisted on driving 6in off my rear bumper - only after getting the ticket (and fuming for an hour or so) did the correct thing to do (and why it was the correct thing) click.
Originally Posted by j17sparky
9th September 2011, 02:38 PM #97
That would just incite more road rage and encourage people to overtake. Whilst it isn't very pleasant doing 50 through the M25 widening and having HGV's on your rear bonnet, you just have to ignore them and let the averaging camera deal with it when they overtake.
9th September 2011, 02:49 PM #98
I went to Germany on holiday last year on my bike. The Germans put everyone inbetween there and here to shame with thier driving skill displayed on the motorways. There are far too many people in the UK that have no idea how to use the motorway and as such it is dangerous and congested. People often stay in the outside lane when the other lanes are free and refuse to move over even when people aproach faster than them. I know this is sligtly off topic but rrrrrrraaahhhggg it drives me nuts.
Originally Posted by Gibbo
I was told the 2 second rule too during my driving instruction. I remembered it from doing my CBT years ago.
I drive much slower in the car than I do on my bike, and when sticking to the posted limits you often get tailgaters. I find it's best to just plain ignore them or even slow by 5mph. Getting het up about it does nothing, letting them make you drive faster than you want to is also pointless. rant(s) over o/
9th September 2011, 02:52 PM #99
whenever i get tailgated i slow right down, i even do this if i think the driver behind isnt paying attention, i had some woman driving behind me the other day who was applying lipstick while looking into her rear mirror, this lead me to slow down to 10MPH(i was in a 30MPH), i only sped back up when she start to wave her arms and swear at me
Originally Posted by pcstru
9th September 2011, 03:02 PM #100
hehe, I like that.
Originally Posted by Flakes
9th September 2011, 03:04 PM #101
dosent need another person just debris at 70 you might avoid it (or less dangerous if you dont) 100+ much less chance (yes the highway code braking distances are based on a ford anglia and a modern can could stop much quicker but it will still stop quicker from 70 than 100
Originally Posted by localzuk
again sometimes red lights are pointless at 3am without a car on the road it does seem daft they dont turn off junction lights and let traffic sort it self out as it is annoying to have to stop for no reason (not condoning jumping red lights but i can see in certain situations why you would)
Originally Posted by Gibbo
9th September 2011, 03:14 PM #102
Havent they done something with turning the trafic lights off somewhere in the UK.. yes they have, googled it. Seems like they have trialed it in a few places and found that more people take more care and trafic moves better, hehe, turn em all off!!
Originally Posted by sted
BBC News - Traffic lights to be switched off in Bristol trial
9th September 2011, 03:30 PM #103
Only 40 years late. They were doing this when I was in Germany in the 70s. One way was on amber continually which meant you gave way.
Originally Posted by SmellyLlama
9th September 2011, 03:40 PM #104
Sounds good to me.
Originally Posted by creese
9th September 2011, 03:51 PM #105
Makes complete sense. No sitting at lights waiting at 1 in the morning for filters and phases with no one else in sight.
Originally Posted by SmellyLlama
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