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    Sourceforge - getting it unblocked

    Sourceforge has been blocked for a few weeks here by the LEA, which is making it hugely difficult to get open source software as the majority seems to be on there (for example I wanted to download Nagios just now)

    No doubt they wont listen to my argument that it is useful because to them usefulness for us is irrelevant and unimportant, so is there another argument I could use to get it unblocked which they couldnt say no to?

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    Re: Sourceforge - getting it unblocked

    If you just need the files, you can access the UK mirror directly.

    http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/d...b/sourceforge/

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    Re: Sourceforge - getting it unblocked

    Just meantion Teaching and Learning, should get it done... Have you asked for their reasons for blocking it?

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    Re: Sourceforge - getting it unblocked

    Why in gods name would sourceforge be blocked?? That makes no sense at all.

    Point out that you use a variety of open source software on your network and that by blocking access they are effectively preventing you keeping the software up to date - therefore introducing a serious security risk to your network, and other schools networks.

    Also point out that other LEA's do not block the site as it contains a large selection of tools which help in the primary function of a school - teaching and learning.

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    Re: Sourceforge - getting it unblocked

    :?. Maybe it was an accident? Can't think of any reason for it being blocked unless maybe they think the pupils may be able to use some of the tools on there to "hack" into the network?

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    Re: Sourceforge - getting it unblocked

    I expect because it has stuff like hacking tools, P2P and IM clients on it and the LEA proxy is too inflexible to block portions of sites.

    But as I pointed out, the files are all hosted by kent university anyway (are they going to block that too?) thus the block is rather meaningless.

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    Re: Sourceforge - getting it unblocked

    What a bunch of muppets

    Slightly differant; but all our staff went on a training day and were shown how to use google images for their lessons. They planned loads of stuff, came back into school and
    "no you cant have google images."
    "But someone from *your* lea have just shown *hundreds* of teachers how to use it and now your telling us you wont trust teachers not to look at porn on it?????"
    "Err.... no"

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    Re: Sourceforge - getting it unblocked

    j17

    Google images used to be blocked by my LEA, but they just introduced a new system (bit of code) that forces the content protection (safe search) on google and many of the other image engines - so now its unblocked and available to use!

    See if your LEA has done the same. This happened within the last two weeks...


    OP

    I have my server on an un-restricted IP addy so I can get to SF - can't you do the same with your LEA filtering?

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    Re: Sourceforge - getting it unblocked

    Quote Originally Posted by j17sparky
    "no you cant have google images."
    "But someone from *your* lea have just shown *hundreds* of teachers how to use it and now your telling us you wont trust teachers not to look at porn on it?????"
    "Err.... no"
    But the thing is, you are the customer and your demands should never be met by 'no'. If your school requires access to a website then they are obliged to provide access to it - you do, after all, pay a large sum of money to have your net connection...

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    Re: Sourceforge - getting it unblocked

    Well, maybe. It depends what the contract/SLA between the School and the LEA/RBC says.

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    Re: Sourceforge - getting it unblocked

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff
    Well, maybe. It depends what the contract/SLA between the School and the LEA/RBC says.
    Contract? What's one of those?

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    Re: Sourceforge - getting it unblocked

    So you have no contract with them? Ok, charge them a million pounds an hour until they restore access...

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    Re: Sourceforge - getting it unblocked

    Freedom - Is it smoothwall they use (or similar)? I wouldnt rely fully on the safesearch, last time i checked it wasnt perfect (but nothing is so...)


    This problem was the best part of 2 years ago now (but far from the only problem coming from our over controling lea/isp) so everyones forgot about it now. We can get on now with our *new* but prehistoric filter but it cant force safesearch so i cant allow it anyhow.
    The old proxy was *in our control*, supposedly, but certain things got blacked on a county level so we didnt really have any control.

    Ive been fighting to get a good proxy for over 2 years now and tbh ive just about given up with the lies and "but we need to test if it works even though its 20yr old technology" attitude - funny you didnt have that attitude when you jumped aboard our current *EXTREAMLY SHAT* proxy!

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    Re: Sourceforge - getting it unblocked

    j17: what bit wasnt perfect? Always happy to have feedback so we can improve things

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    Re: Sourceforge - getting it unblocked

    Maybe they've blocked it bcs of BSF, so you cant turn round and say, why are we being forced to use and effectively pay for [insert BSF contract winners software here] when there's a perfectly good piece of open source software available which a huge support community and the versitility of being able to edit ourselves?

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