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    Must admit having a car that is fun to drive is always important, if its boring and you hate it you won't enjoy having it. I changed my Golf GTI to a Tiguan Sport and its not quite as much fun but still brings a smile to my face when I burn the local chavs off

    @tom_newton would enjoy his Civic Type-R even more if he did actually drive though

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    You could see how much a Ford Focus 1.8/1.9/2.0 TDCi is and see about getting it chipped (with eg Bluefin), then insuring it with an insurance company that is mod friendly (eg Adrian Flux has been recommended to me by a mate when I was thinking about modding my car). It may not have as much PS/BHP as an ST, but a chipped TDCi is nothing to be sniffed it either

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    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    Must admit having a car that is fun to drive is always important, if its boring and you hate it you won't enjoy having it. I changed my Golf GTI to a Tiguan Sport and its not quite as much fun but still brings a smile to my face when I burn the local chavs off

    @tom_newton would enjoy his Civic Type-R even more if he did actually drive though
    No I wouldn't it is HER type-R and no-one else is to be trusted driving it.

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    Could be right there. Will start looking round next month. (get the overtime in so far)

    Do need something thats fun to drive. Im in it enough times.

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    If you expect to get 30-40mpg out of an ST170 you will be seriously dissapointed. I used to get average 29mpg out of my 2.0 ghia and that had about 50HP less. I recon you'll be running 25 - 30mpg in evereryday town driving on an ST170.

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    Not town driving all the time tbh. Im more looking in to a focus currently. (tdci)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butuz View Post
    If you expect to get 30-40mpg out of an ST170 you will be seriously dissapointed. I used to get average 29mpg out of my 2.0 ghia and that had about 50HP less. I recon you'll be running 25 - 30mpg in evereryday town driving on an ST170.

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    i dont think i ever got much below 30 out of mine and once managed 41 on a run

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    If you're tall, want something with a bit of power but also fairly economical you can't go wrong with a Peugeot 307 dturbo. There's also lots of scope for remapping and upping the BHP.

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    I used to deal with cars privatley, and have worked at quite a large car retailer. At the moment I live in the BB postcode, and do around 1,000 miles a month. I have a little run around which isn't amazing to drive, nor is it a very manly car - but it's a Peugeot 107. It's a 2009, and when I bought it it had 14,000 on the clock with one female owner. It cost me £4,800 and I have had it for 10 months now. The road tax is £20 a year and it gets around 65MPG. It's a bit like a tin box, the stereo sounds like a wind up radio and it's noisy on the motorway, but looking through my bank statements I am putting in less than £100 a month in fuel. Also it is a group 1 insurance vehicle, but with me being in the BB postcode it is still £1,000 a year for me with me being 20. I recommend the 107 to anybody who wants a good cheap run around, if you do lots of motorway miles and you want comfort don't buy one. If you are skint and only have like £500 to spare for a car for example, I would use the £500 to put down as a deposit on one of these cars and pay something like £99 a month, as the £99 you will be spending will be a saving for the fuel on a 1.2 standard car so you would be getting a decent car and be spending around the same. I used to have a Vauxhall Corsa 1.2, and I am saving £100 a month on fuel now on average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oalcock View Post
    Also it is a group 1 insurance vehicle, but with me being in the BB postcode it is still £1,000 a year for me with me being 20.
    Its worth bearing in mind that car groupings sometimes have no bearing on price. I've just gone up from a group 9 to a group 19 and the insurance came down by - wait for it - 2p!

    My younger brother also got quotes for a group 1 1L petrol Corsa and it turned out a 2L diesel Peueot 306 dTurbo (the sporty one) was cheaper.

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    Corsas are common for boy racer cars though, if you want cheaper insurance these are the cars you want to avoid. "GROUP 19 , bloody H! What type of car is it? Subaru?

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    I think you may have made a mistake, they are only around group 8/9. Even a Range Rover isn't group 19.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oalcock View Post
    I think you may have made a mistake, they are only around group 8/9. Even a Range Rover isn't group 19.
    No the mistake is yours, insurance groups have changed it is no longer the old 1 - 20 system since January 2010 it changed to a 1 - 50 system his is group 19 out of 50.

    Mine is group 50 out of 50

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    How come on Auto Trader cars are advertised as 1-20 then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oalcock View Post
    How come on Auto Trader cars are advertised as 1-20 then?
    Car Insurance Groups | Car Insurance Bands & Categories Explained - moneysupermarket.com

    every vehicle is designated a 1 to 50 rating based on which car insurance group or band they belong to.

    Until January 2010, vehicles were grouped from 1 to 20. The old grouping system was replaced by a more comprehensive system that banded cars from 1 to 50, with one being the lowest and 50 being the highest and most expensive car insurance group.

    Group 1 vehicles will tend to be cheaper, low-specification models with smaller engines. Conversely, Group 50 vehicles are high-end high-performance models like Aston Martins.



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