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    A bit of fun maths for you in the morning!

    I know there will be someone here who works this out.
    We are ripping up our current patio to lay a new one. We need to order a skip to get rid of the slabs, but obviously don't want to overfill the skip in terms of weight so want to work out how much the slabs weigh.
    they are 600mx600m slabs (approx 2" thick) and we have about 40 to get rid of.
    Is there a sort of general weight of concrete that can be applied to this?

    I think the 8yard skip can take up to 8 tonnes but obviously if i could get away with a smaller skip and smaller weight limit it would lower the cost

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    Not sure if I found an answer just after posting. Just wanted to see if this makes sense to anyone?

    Paving Expert - AJ McCormack and Son - Pre Cast Concrete BS Flags <-- that site at the bottom says that a 600mx600m (2" thick) slab will weigh approx 41kg each.
    So 41kg * 40 = 1640kg which equates to 1.64tonnes? Does that sound about right, 40 patio slabs weighing just over a tonne and a half?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK-2 View Post
    they are 600mx600m slabs (approx 2" thick) and we have about 40 to get rid of.
    Well under the assumption that's 600mm, not meters? :P Unless I worked something out wrong, 0.6*0.6*0.05*40 is 0.72~ barely 1m3

    Norm concrete 2.5~ tonnes per m3, so say 2 tonnes. (Assuming slabs not normal though) Unless i did somethign wrong, nowhere near 8tonnes. (Might want to double check the maths but hey :P)

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    yeah sorry 600mm, thats me typing in haste!

    these are the sort of slabs, 600mm by 600mm and 2 inch thick. they weigh a fair bit each, but once you are loading stuff into a skip its hard to just say "yep thats about 2 tonne in there" so wanted to check first
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    so you're saying 40 slabs would work out approx 2 tonne?

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    Concrete has a density of around 150lbs per cubic foot (so I've heard I don't have that off the top of my head!!), 600mm is about 2ft so 2*2*(1/6)*150 = 100lbs. 2000 pounds in a ton so you should be able to 160 in that skip ((2000*8)/100).

    Hope my workings out are correct now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK-2 View Post
    yeah sorry 600mm, thats me typing in haste!

    these are the sort of slabs, 600mm by 600mm and 2 inch thick. they weigh a fair bit each, but once you are loading stuff into a skip its hard to just say "yep thats about 2 tonne in there" so wanted to check first
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    so you're saying 40 slabs would work out approx 2 tonne?
    Well it's less I'd say nearer what you said, 0.72 x 2.4k is roughly 1.728~ but just rounding it a bit That's basing it on "standard concrete" weight anyway. Unless we both worked something out majorly wrong that is

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK-2 View Post
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    Oh, those are nasty. My brother has some of those in his garden from when he bought the house. He keeps saying he's dying to get rid of them, but it's been 8 months now and they are still there - I think he secretly likes them!

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    just so we're all clear, if the skip buckles under these slabs im holding you all personally responsible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hightower View Post
    Oh, those are nasty. My brother has some of those in his garden from when he bought the house. He keeps saying he's dying to get rid of them, but it's been 8 months now and they are still there - I think he secretly likes them!
    thats just a pic off that site, but ours are a bit similar. just uploading a pic from my phone as ive been taking in progress pics all the way, so you can see the state of ours.

    we've been in the place about 10 months and decided its time ours went too!! definitely dont like them. plus they aren't laid properly, the hardcore under isn't compacted well enough.

    these are ours:
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    Don't forget to include the cat when calculating weight for the skip. I think it'll take about 0.004 tonnes per cat. Wouldn't want you going over the limit, that's all

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    thats not even our cat, its next doors. she sat and watched us moving loads of stuff last night.

    anyway why am i even listening to you, you're working out the weight of a lion, not a house cat

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK-2 View Post
    thats not even our cat, its next doors. she sat and watched us moving loads of stuff last night.

    anyway why am i even listening to you, you're working out the weight of a lion, not a house cat
    Let me google that for you

    And I only said 4 kilos because a) to take into account really big cats b) because I look at cats like those naughty rioters and each cat is sure to have a few electrical goods in their coats and c) because I'm not a cat person in the slightest and don't know what they weight and d) because it's really hard to judge a cats weight just by kicking them

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    or you could just pull one slab up, get all the mud and stuff off and weigh one and * by 40 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK-2 View Post
    just so we're all clear, if the skip buckles under these slabs im holding you all personally responsible
    Not to spoil this beautiful thought exercise but if you want assurance what is stopping you from simply ripping one up, weighing it and multiplying that weight by 41. I know its rather dull but would get you a reasonably accurate figure without involving a bunch of (reasonably accurate) assumptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SYNACK View Post
    Not to spoil this beautiful thought exercise but if you want assurance what is stopping you from simply ripping one up, weighing it and multiplying that weight by 41. I know its rather dull but would get you a reasonably accurate figure without involving a bunch of (reasonably accurate) assumptions.
    i don't think our kitchen weighing scales go up that far (and we don't have bathroom scales)



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