bossman (9th August 2011)
London’s burning: a mob made by the welfare state
Yes, there’s a ‘political context’ to the riots: it is that British youth have been so suckled by the state they have zero sense of community spirit.
bossman (9th August 2011)
I'm not blaming it on this government, I'm blaming the last one. This government is being entirely sensible!To blame the upbringing of the current youth on a govt. which has been in power for less than a year is a wee bit silly I think you'd agree.
Boy do I love being a 21 year old with a few brain cells to rub together - although I do have the Cubs, Scouts and the Air Cadets to thank for a well-founded sense of community and what is the right thing to do.
Now are more organisations like that going to help? To be honest I don't think so as the kinds of people who appear to be causing all of these problems have no interest in youth organisations like that.
That then leaves it down to good parenting and the schools to install a sense of what is British – only thing is the parents are just part of the same vicious circle and the schools are well out of their depth when it comes to these kinds of things.
I’m now a member of the RAF volunteer reserves and are more than saddened to see how this can happen in ENGLAND….by that I mean this isn’t Syria and this isn’t Egypt but for some strange reason in our western civilised world some parts of the population still feel that they can tear up out capital city!
RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!!!
MK-2 (9th August 2011)
My friends went to London and all I got was this 47" TV!
The police are there to protect the people and keep the law and order - they are trained to handle complex situations on the streets of the UK.
The Army/Military are there to protect the nation from other nations through the deployment of weapons - they are trained to handle complex situations on the streets of other nations. Indeed if you are a detachment of 30 men and you have a large force coming towards you your next move is to lay down as much fire as possible and reach for the RAF to rain down an air strike.
So although the Army wouldn't go in with weapons they would go in with the wrong training/experience for the situation.
I'm sure many members of the military would like to help - after all they feel a strong enough link to the country to fight for it but that doesn’t mean they signed up to start policing the streets.
It's very easy to assing blame. Really the only blame should be assigned to the people doing the rioting and looting!
Yes things could be done better by governments but it's very easy to look back and say that x made mistakes.
I have my own thought on government in general but to me the biggest issues is with society. In general far too many people have the attitude "what can ssociety do for me" instead of "what can I do for society".
I was brought up to understand that if you want something you work for it. Everything I have I worked for and there is loads of things I want but I know that I will need to work to get them. I hope I raise my child the same way.
P.s. Having a day off and watching batman. There might be something in this...
joe90bass (11th August 2011)
I love reading all the knee jerk reactions - puts a smile on my face.
Otherwise wouldn't it be like saying the army shouldn't be on the streets of London as look how it ended up in Iraq?
Scotland Yard reporting the man shot (don't know who by) last night has died. RIP.
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