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    At the end of the day all of us always have a choice how to behave. That defines who we are. Those people chose to rob, steal and vandalise.

    Whatever excuse they hide behind or whoever people feel is to blame, at that moment they chose to take those actions.

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    Grrr.... Duplication.

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    This has been doing the rounds:

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    Obviously been watching quite a few of the "riots" and tbh I've seen more threatening trouble dealt with on a "normal" Friday night down town.

    Anyone else cynical enough to think that the police were "stepping back" as a warning to politicians about what will happen if their share of the cuts and pension reductions go through?

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    [QUOTE=Trapper;716579]This has been doing the rounds:


    That's from Photoshop looter.

    photoshoplooter

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    Another topical photo-edited image:


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    Here's an idea [Picture edited for language]



    That way while you are in court you can hold your trousers up at a proper level before your stolen goods are confiscated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpuffMonkey View Post
    Anyone else cynical enough to think that the police were "stepping back" as a warning to politicians about what will happen if their share of the cuts and pension reductions go through?
    Well, they didn't exactly go in hard and fast. I found this article, its explanation is rather different.
    Why the police are in a state of impotence | Mick Hume | spiked

    The authorities have left a power vacuum that invited anybody with a brick or a shopping trolley to come and have a go. On Saturday police left people free to loot shopping centres in north London, supposedly while the Force focused on dealing with the riot in Tottenham. Yet as residents pointed out, they did nothing to stop the burning down of shops and flats there, either. Over the days that followed there were many complaints from angry shopkeepers of the Met standing back while their premises were robbed and fired.
    One Met commander gave a revealing interview to Sky News, explaining that the policing of communities had changed a lot since the riots of 25 or 30 years ago. This time, he said, ‘we’re standing next to these people watching them cry because their businesses have been destroyed. We’re going to work with the partners in that local community to make sure we help them rebuild Tottenham. That’s what policing is all about.’ Call me old-fashioned, but that sounds more like a professional therapist or town planner than a police chief faced with civil disorder.
    The flabby police response gave the green light to the would-be looters and assorted toerags to come out and play. Indeed, the way the police then toured other areas of London telling shops to shut up early because trouble was coming – by implication making clear that they could not protect the properties – may well have put the idea of a little looting in some people’s heads. In these circumstances there was surely no great mystery as to why the riots spread so fast. There was nothing to stop them. The police were sounding the retreat before battle had even commenced.
    For all the promise of ‘robust policing’, the only threat the authorities were really making was of robust videoing of looters to facilitate later prosecutions. A call to arms it was not.
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    London riots Google Doodle?


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    This one made me chuckle:


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    Wishful thinking.....


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    Our local rag is scraping the bottom of the barrel

    Large header: Police strive to keep looters away.

    Big photo: Burning shop (Caption reveals it's in Tottenham).

    Story: Most of a page, but this is the key quote... “Officers were called to The Slug and Lettuce Bar at 10.15pm following reports of two men who were believed to be in possession of a brick with the intention of “carrying out disorder”. They were handed a section 27 notice ordering them to leave the area.”

    * Sigh *

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    I think John McDonnell MP says it quite well in The Guardian:

    Haven't the warnings been there, from as wide a range of people from Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett to Rowan Williams? We are reaping what has been sown over the last three decades of creating a grotesquely unequal society with an ethos of grab as much as you can by any means. A society of looters created with MPs and their expenses, bankers and their bonuses, tax-evading corporations, hacking journalists, bribe-taking police officers, and now a group of alienated kids are seizing their chance. This is not to condone but to understand. Addressing inequality is the only way we can avoid a rerun of these riots.

    John McDonnell MP


    Letters: We have created a society of looters | UK news | The Guardian

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    I trust the Guardian as much as I trust the Daily Mail, in fact should either paper come into physical contact with the other something very 'bad' will happen to our universe.
    I also note that Mr McDonnell is a labour MP and is duty bound to blame the riots on anything but his parties running of the country for the past 13 years.

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