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What can parents do when they are out at work during the summer while the kids are on holiday? Without taking time off work to make sure the kids are not going out (and coming back late), what can they do?
Why are teachers/children and MPs getting 6 weeks off work in the summer because of historical links to farm working?
People are going to call me all sorts for this but;
IMO women (or men) should not be working as much once they have a child. Family is what life is all about, not work. Now obviously we've got to a point where people can't afford to live if both parents don't go out to work, but it never used to be like that. Even as recently as the 80s a lot of mums either stayed at home or had part time jobs. Now to me the main reason both parents need to work is because of house prices, but the daft thing is they couldn't have risen like they did if one parent wasn't earning a full wage.
People can call me what they will but I honestly believe some mums need to be at home a hell of a lot more than they currently are. Other advantages to this other than more time to nurture your child is; more jobs for the young, elderly and childless, cheaper prices for certain things, less traffic congestion, more community spirit as mums have time to network with each other, better diets for the family as mum has time to prepare a meal instead of being too tired and ordering a takeaway...
i know if we had a kid now, we would struggle to pay mortgage+bills+food+baby on just my wage if my wife stopped working completely.
if gas and electric bills came down
if mortgage rates were lower
if petrol wasn't so expensive
if food prices were standardised not localised....
all these things would mean a family life would be easier to come by. but as it is (and probably always will be now) profit for these big companies will trump family life for you or i
The advantages you list fit much more with the 20th century society where consumers can drive prices and resources are local. For example today the cars will be on the road because you have to drive to the local playgroup/library/special needs unit.
Cuts and the fake promise of the big society meeting our needs mean not working is not an option.
Of course, parent-child time is a major issue here, but the fact that parents both have to work isn't really an issue here - most of these kids out looting etc... are not from 2 parent families! I read recently that 1 in 5 kids is from a single parent family now.
One of the old ideas used to be that the father was the disciplinarian and the mother was the caring one. I know that's ridiculously sexist and over simplified but in a way it makes sense. If one parent is all they have, it often leads to them missing out on an aspect of growing up that is needed. If they lack the discipline, they are crazy wild and immoral, if they lack the caring side (which plenty will), they can become withdrawn from society and that comes with its own problems (like them seeking out people with similar mindsets, no matter how weird, and them becoming extremists etc...).
*waits for comments!*
seriously though, a lot of blame is always placed on "oh they are a single parent family lot". its crap, if the parent has morals, standards and love for the child then the child won't grow up a thug. they may become one later on in life for various reasons, but not due to upbringing.
if anything, at school i saw a few kids whose mother/father had remarried and the kid acted out to get the attention of the parent away from their new relationship. we wouldn't be blaming marriage for any of this so don't think we should be blaming divorce/single parents for this either
You have to take many things into account. Poor irrisponsible parenting comes in many guises. Women also have to look after themselves financially too. If their partner decides to upgrade from software to firmware and they never got married then they are in serious financial trouble. Even more so if they haven't been in employment for several years.
It is too easy to generalise and it is always someone elses fault.
Last edited by NikChillin; 11th August 2011 at 02:55 PM.
Teaching has become very left-wing huggy huggy in the past decade. I don't there's enough of the older fire and brimstone scare the crap out of you teachers left. They've all just retired to protect their final salary!
My father-in-law retired early as he had his students (all girls too!) going crazy. Not just jumping on desks, but screaming abuse at him - calling him a racist, saying they'd sue him for it. The SLT at the school didn't really care (Discipline problem? What discipline problem?!)
I'm lucky that I've only worked in three schools, all of which are Outstanding (not only in OfSTED, but in management) so I haven't seen this first hand since coming back into education after leaving it at age 18 ten years ago. But I remember the real nasty pieces of work at my old school - the no hopers, the ones where going to jail is almost assured - still respected several of the older teachers as they took no crap off them, and also treated them well - I'm sure you all know what I mean - the I'll respect you when you respect me thing. And it worked.
Forum seems a bit jittery this afternoon!
To me the main reason for these scummy areas existing is how easy it is to stay on the dole, ironically its very hard to get on the dole if you have just lost your job as anyone who's been through it knows. Children see their parent(s) not having ever worked and think it's the norm. People are saying its because the kids are bored, well yes I agree, if you never go to school, have never had a job, and live in a council estate with the majority of people being in the same boat then you will get bored. Solution - get a job, spend your money on keeping yourself occupied, and hopefully want to better yourself and get yourself out of the council estate, or better still stay there and help bring the area up.
Last edited by j17sparky; 11th August 2011 at 03:17 PM.
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