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    Re: Just been asked.....

    Better how? :P

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    Re: Just been asked.....

    Nor the time nor the thread for that discussion Disease

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    Re: Just been asked.....

    Quote Originally Posted by NickJones
    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd
    had parents complain about problems with teacher putting windows only coursework on the VLE
    "do a mspowerpoint of such and such for homework"
    They make a good point, no? Why should we assume that all the families have PCs with Microsoft Office installed?

    For a while, we have had a couple of copies of MS Works around the school for those people who save stuff in the wrong format by mistake. I also recently installed Open Office for similar reasons.
    Microsoft just love it when people generically call a word processor, "microsoft word" or "word".

    I think more people should complain about it. The more complaints schools receive, the more like they are to start using popular alternatives alongside the usual microsoft stuff therefore raising awareness of its exisance.

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    Re: Just been asked.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Netman
    Could have been worse...

    They might have asked for MACs... 8O :P 8O
    Erm ... why would they want Media Access Control ... that is something that would be on all computers nowadays as Bluetooth, WiFi and wired NICs all have MAC addresses ...

    oh ... you mean Apple Macs?

    Nah ... FreeBSD would be wasted on the littluns.

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    Re: Just been asked.....

    I wonder when the monopolies commission will spot that in only one area of education, a closed, monopolistic, software suite and OS are being REQUIRED to gain a public qualification.

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    Re: Just been asked.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew_C
    I wonder when the monopolies commission will spot that in only one area of education, a closed, monopolistic, software suite and OS are being REQUIRED to gain a public qualification.
    The exam boards' defence will be that all they require of students is to use word processors and spreadsheets, 99.9% of schools decide to use MS Word and Excel for these tasks, but there's nothing saying that they we HAVE to use MS. They (allegedly) use vendor-independent phrases although it is very clear which application they had in mind.

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    Re: Just been asked.....

    The old Thomas Telford GNVQ ICT course material always referred to MS Office products by their name.

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    Re: Just been asked.....

    ^ Im 99% sure ive seen "Use MS powerpoint to...."


    You know what the arguement it though (well what i get when i mention opensource anyway);

    "Well thats what they use in industry" - Err no they dont, never seen anyone use access for a serious database before.

    "Open source is free so it must be crap" - Err no *nix is free, mysql is free, apache is free...


    Problem is theresd to many idiots running the show who dont have any technical knowledge whatsoever and think the flashyest wesite/presentation must mean teh softwares good

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    Re: Just been asked.....

    I think it's called "Cash incentives"

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    Re: Just been asked.....

    Did he have 666 on his head...........?

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    Re: Just been asked.....

    Quote Originally Posted by NickJones
    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew_C
    I wonder when the monopolies commission will spot that in only one area of education, a closed, monopolistic, software suite and OS are being REQUIRED to gain a public qualification.
    The exam boards' defence will be that all they require of students is to use word processors and spreadsheets, 99.9% of schools decide to use MS Word and Excel for these tasks, but there's nothing saying that they we HAVE to use MS. They (allegedly) use vendor-independent phrases although it is very clear which application they had in mind.
    DiDA...

    Admittedly slightly off track, but you are required to use certain software

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    Re: Just been asked.....

    I'd love to be able to roll out Ubuntu on our machines, or use Edubuntu with thin clients. It would be marvelous! Save us £5k a year in licenses

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    Re: Just been asked.....

    The exam boards' defence will be that all they require of students is to use word processors and spreadsheets, 99.9% of schools decide to use MS Word and Excel for these tasks, but there's nothing saying that they we HAVE to use MS. They (allegedly) use vendor-independent phrases although it is very clear which application they had in mind.
    Hear about On-screen testing?

    City and Guilds GOLA Requires Windows
    Edexcel Onscreen testing Requires Windows
    RM KS3 Requires Windows

    The only way for schools to opt out of MS tax is to change exam boards, but most teachers won't be happy. Also having unecessary lockin to MSOffice with SIMS shows quite how out of touch captia can be.

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    Re: Just been asked.....

    Just to add to that list as well CyberNerd, OCR requires Windows for server and client exam software.

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