+ Post New Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 21
General Chat Thread, Violent games reduce anger - discuss in General; John Carmack (developer on the original Doom among other things) has stated that violent games calm people, not make them ...
  1. #1

    MK-2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Nottingham
    Posts
    3,237
    Thank Post
    149
    Thanked 581 Times in 307 Posts
    Blog Entries
    8
    Rep Power
    200

    Violent games reduce anger - discuss

    John Carmack (developer on the original Doom among other things) has stated that violent games calm people, not make them angrier. What are peoples thoughts?

    Doom dude says violent games lower aggression ? reghardware
    Last edited by MK-2; 2nd August 2011 at 11:22 AM.

  2. #2

    localzuk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Minehead
    Posts
    18,164
    Thank Post
    522
    Thanked 2,555 Times in 1,983 Posts
    Blog Entries
    24
    Rep Power
    879
    I think the key thing is age appropriateness of the games. Letting a 5 year old go on a shooting spree in GTA IV or sneak up on people with a knife in Bad Company 2 is a bad idea, as their brains are developing and that sort of thing can and could make them think it is acceptable.

    But an 18 year old playing such games? They should know right from wrong, and it is a good way to let off steam.

  3. #3

    MK-2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Nottingham
    Posts
    3,237
    Thank Post
    149
    Thanked 581 Times in 307 Posts
    Blog Entries
    8
    Rep Power
    200
    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    I think the key thing is age appropriateness of the games.
    Oh of course, I totally agree. If the media want to blame GTA for little Johnny doing something bad then the game is not in question, it should be the parents decision to let him play that game.
    I meant legally (as in 18+ play 18+ games) I see the benefits, although some of the comments on there suggest that although we feel more relaxed after the game, we are in fact angrier

  4. #4
    SteveBentley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Yorkshire
    Posts
    1,450
    Thank Post
    120
    Thanked 263 Times in 189 Posts
    Rep Power
    73
    There's some research just been published by Huddersfield Uni that suggests that violent games don't make you any more aggressive than non violent ones.

    http://www2.hud.ac.uk/news/2011news/07/videogames.php

  5. #5
    JoeBloggs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Manchester
    Posts
    548
    Thank Post
    164
    Thanked 76 Times in 53 Posts
    Rep Power
    35
    Nothing makes me more mad than coming off Black-Ops with 0-30 score!!! 30-0 would make me very happy but won't ever happen!!! Damn kids...

  6. Thanks to JoeBloggs from:

    mattx (2nd August 2011)

  7. #6

    CPLTD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Northamptonshire
    Posts
    4,076
    Thank Post
    1,404
    Thanked 654 Times in 509 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1
    Rep Power
    262
    Personally I've only ever felt violent after taking a thrashing at Fifa.

    I could play COD/Tekken/GTA for hours in perfect serenity....

    Joe

  8. #7
    Butters's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    London
    Posts
    534
    Thank Post
    15
    Thanked 51 Times in 45 Posts
    Rep Power
    61
    Black ops infuriates me at times and makes me smash things and games in general when they dont go my way cause the same effect.

  9. #8


    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    3,298
    Thank Post
    291
    Thanked 887 Times in 665 Posts
    Rep Power
    341
    I'VE PLAYED VIOLENT GAMES ALL MY LIFE - IT NEVER DID ME ANY HARM AND I'LL SMASH YER FACE IN IF YOU SAY ANY DIFFERENT.

  10. Thanks to pcstru from:

    mattx (2nd August 2011)

  11. #9

    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Milton Keynes
    Posts
    144
    Thank Post
    0
    Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts
    Rep Power
    10
    i get angrier playing racing games. It's fun to run around blowing stuff up

  12. #10


    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Surrey
    Posts
    2,243
    Thank Post
    118
    Thanked 339 Times in 279 Posts
    Blog Entries
    4
    Rep Power
    138
    Absolutely - after a frustrating creeper encounter in minecraft the first thing I tend to do is dive into a simple blood 'n' guts game to unwind.

  13. #11

    X-13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    /dev/null
    Posts
    9,475
    Thank Post
    637
    Thanked 2,118 Times in 1,454 Posts
    Blog Entries
    19
    Rep Power
    882
    Quote Originally Posted by CPLTD View Post
    Personally I've only ever felt violent after taking a thrashing at Fifa.

    I remember seeing a paper on how less violent, more realistic games cause more aggression in gamers than violent games. [For example: football and driving games make you rage more than GTA.]

  14. #12

    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Milton Keynes
    Posts
    144
    Thank Post
    0
    Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts
    Rep Power
    10
    I broke my keyboard after losing one race too many times in Most Wanted. However I love the puzzle and exploration aspect of games like GTA and playing through the stories of first person shooters. Does TF2 count as a violent game? Cos its bloody funny and doesn't make me violent, it makes me happy

  15. #13


    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    In the server room, with the lead pipe.
    Posts
    4,686
    Thank Post
    279
    Thanked 784 Times in 611 Posts
    Rep Power
    225
    If it's a console port in which it's impossible to actually miss, the story runs on rails and all the "hidden" items stand out against the background like a neon pink hippo, then more violent.

    If it's actually a tricky game that requires an ounce of skill and maybe detective work to find stuff, then less violent.

  16. #14

    sonofsanta's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Lincolnshire, UK
    Posts
    5,147
    Thank Post
    919
    Thanked 1,528 Times in 1,039 Posts
    Blog Entries
    47
    Rep Power
    693
    Absolutely. There are charts around showing the steady decline of violent crime in America plotted against the upward trend of video game sales, where a large majority of said sales are violent, 18 games (COD etc.). I think the long term trend is very clear.

    The problem is that any studies that have been done - and there have been a few, in all fairness - all concentrate on short term effects. They then inevitably show an increase in violent tendencies or anger issues, because after spending 3 hours completely focused on an online deathmath, getting repeatedly shown up by strangers, you do tend to be a bit wound up. I don't think I've ever personally broken a controller throwing it against a wall but I've come pretty close in the past.

    As far as I'm aware, though, none of these studies have ever taken someone who is already a gamer and is already in a foul mood and got them to play a violent game. I suspect if they did, you'd see a clear drop in whatever markers were being used. I think the important part of such a study would be "already a gamer" - someone who habitually uses games in this way anyway. A middled aged lady is just going to get more wound up because she won't have any idea what is going on or how to do anything, and the feeling of empowerment is the significant factor in the relief of the stress, because so often what gets us riled up is out of our control.

    Very interesting dissection of the issue at RPS, related to the stupid Fox News comments that Bulletstorm would turn you into a rapist: Fox News | Rock, Paper, Shotgun: not making jokes about what you think we are - in particular the article on analysing the evidence, iirc. It'll take you a while to read but it's one of the most joyous pieces of video game journalism in the last year, and thoroughly recommended.

  17. #15

    sonofsanta's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Lincolnshire, UK
    Posts
    5,147
    Thank Post
    919
    Thanked 1,528 Times in 1,039 Posts
    Blog Entries
    47
    Rep Power
    693
    Quote Originally Posted by pete View Post
    If it's a console port in which it's impossible to actually miss, the story runs on rails and all the "hidden" items stand out against the background like a neon pink hippo, then more violent.

    If it's actually a tricky game that requires an ounce of skill and maybe detective work to find stuff, then less violent.
    You'll enjoy this article on Ars today, then.



SHARE:
+ Post New Thread
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 177
    Last Post: 7th July 2014, 01:56 PM
  2. Microsoft to release 1980s games for Xbox
    By ZeroHour in forum Gaming
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 19th July 2006, 01:26 PM
  3. Attachments and polls reduce topic readership
    By ITWombat in forum Comments and Suggestions
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 12th June 2006, 10:43 AM
  4. RM - Discuss
    By nawbus in forum Recommended Suppliers
    Replies: 49
    Last Post: 9th May 2006, 02:19 PM
  5. USB Drives + Games
    By linuxgirlie in forum Windows
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 9th February 2006, 12:00 PM

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •