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    Network Manager - Minimum requirements/specification?

    Hey,

    Not sure if this is really right forum for this, but couldn't see a better one :P

    Been working as a IT tech for 8 months now, and enjoying it a lot (Not planning to move anyway :P), however obviously I'd like to look for ways to improve for the future, and trying to work out what's a good place to aim for.

    (For schools)
    a) What do you think are the priorities in terms of progressing? (e.g. Exchange? AD? DNS/DHCP? etc)
    b) Are most NMs expected to have MSCEs? or is MSCA acceptable? (Got neither currently :P)
    c) Do most schools assume you'll have knowledge in mac/linux/other OS's and backends?
    d) Would you advise the cert route, or the buy one of your own and learn it kinda route :P (e.g. AD server etc etc)
    e) Is specialisation in a smaller number of areas better, or a wider general knowledge?

    Anything else you can think of would be appreciated, just trying to build a picture of what to do, and where to go in my spare time. Better to prepare sooner rather than later

    Many thanks,
    Steve

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    MCSE and MCSA are now redundant under MCITP qualifications...so they would be good to get.

    As for what to know, know what your school does, and then a bit more. Mine for example does the standard server roles DNS, DHCP, AD, but no longer exchange, but I learnt exchange anyways. We were a CC3 network and moved to a vanilla network, but I kept the cc3 server on to keep my skills up to date.

    Linux and Mac are handy to have to an operational level, nobody expects more unless the role requires you know more.

    I would advocate home learning over bootcamp learning solely that you learn in your own time and pace, and are more likely to pass and retain the knowledge.

    As for specialisations, I say have a few and stay current with everything else. My niche for example is wireless and software coding.2 completely different skill sets, yet are good for job roles, whilst the rest is what I have learnt on the job.

    Anything more, please pm me:-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
    MCSE and MCSA are now redundant under MCITP qualifications...so they would be good to get.
    I was under the impression MCITP was for 2k8 only? Isn't MSCE/A still the "norm" for 2k3? (Which most schools seem to be on still, or at least it seems that way :P)

    Also stupid question, but only started looking at exams recently, am I right in thinking you could have multiple MCITPs?

    Based on MCITP (Microsoft Certified IT Professional) | Training Courses for IT Professionals am I right in thinking you are officially a MCITP if you pass 680+685 and then passing 686 would make you a dual MCITPs? Or have I misunderstood that? (also do you have to pass MCTS first? Some places seem to suggest it)

    Thanks,
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    MCITP is the norm to have nowadays, MS are telling people with MCSE and MCSA to take the additional certificate tests to get MCITP as they want it completely phased out by 2014. And if you are MCITP you just state which version you pass and exams, if you pass both you are not dual MCITP, just standard MCITP with 2 sections done

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    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
    MCITP is the norm to have nowadays, MS are telling people with MCSE and MCSA to take the additional certificate tests to get MCITP as they want it completely phased out by 2014. And if you are MCITP you just state which version you pass and exams, if you pass both you are not dual MCITP, just standard MCITP with 2 sections done
    Ah, that explains it :P

    From MS's exam site it says
    MCITP certifications build on the technical proficiency measured in the Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist (MCTS) certifications. Therefore, you will earn one or more MCTS certifications on your way to earning an MCITP certification.
    Does it mean you can't do MCITP without the equiv MCTS first? or just that's its building on what you "would" have learnt? :P

    Steve

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    you can do it, its just harder to do..I recommend MCTS as a solid foundation

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    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
    you can do it, its just harder to do..I recommend MCTS as a solid foundation
    Cool, Many thanks! Will stop stealing your time

    Steve

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    Not to worry, happy to help :-)

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    Also, something else to consider, if you want to be broad spectrum, go for CCNA Exploration with MCITP, it will make you a well rounded individual and chances are you will use the networking skills you learn from CCNA in designing a network / topography, and MCITP in server administration and desktop support

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    You might want to consider something from Comptia first before you go for the MS stuff. A+ may be a bit basic for you now but Server + and Network + would be good to start with. If I was training somebody who was fairly new and I wanted them to progress I think I would like them to do the A+ Server + MS 70-680 & 70-685 to give MCITP: Enterprise Desktop Support Technician. That would be the first couple of years covered, then I would be thinking Network + then maybe looking at the higher level MS MCITP such as Server Administrator.
    Last edited by ChrisH; 11th July 2011 at 10:31 PM.

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    ^^^^ Also sound advice there I'm sorry, I always work on the preface that everyone has that level of ability. lol

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