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    - LEA buys in bulk, gets nice discount but with a "Thou shalt not transfer" clause.
    - School goes academy but cannot use LEA licence as they are no longer under control of the LEA and the licence cannot be transferred.
    - School must either dig up an old licence from before they were an academy (and Capita will still try to argue it is invalid, search for it on here) or pay for a new one.
    - Both LEA and school owned licences still require a maintenance fee.

    Way to treat loyal customers tbh, especially those who have invested with costly extras...

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    Quote Originally Posted by farquea View Post
    Complete joke of a company, software is something i've seen university students produce better, the amount of updates and patches stuck on top is daft and so many simple bugs in it.
    Careful, if it was that simple then those students would be in the money... look around these forums about SIMS and the end result is one thing - there is rarely anything better, and if you think otherwise you need to open your eyes a little. After all, that's more fuel to the fire - Capita have schools bent over a barrel in that way too. Anythign about the patches/updates is entirely moot because (most) of the time it's nothing to do with the software, but governmental demands.

    Besides which, yes they do make far too much money from schools/LEA/government and damned right they shouldn't. They're leeches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webman View Post
    Hopefully this will pave the way for greater competition in the MIS market, allowing other providers to offer cheaper and better services and products.
    We all know Capita will keep their prices high because of the market share that they have. When they realise that they are losing customers all over, they MIGHT change there strategy, but no guarantees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webman View Post
    Hopefully this will pave the way for greater competition in the MIS market, allowing other providers to offer cheaper and better services and products.
    Thanks very much to the very narrow-minded forum member who gave me negative rep for that reply, with the comment "Wishful thinking". Yes, it is wishful thinking, and about time something had an impact on the monopoly!

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    I asked Phil Neal about this on twitter

    @schoolsict Capita charging £20K to licence when becoming an Academy IT company accused of 'excessive' profits - News - TES Connect @Phil_Neal is this still current capita charging policy?

    From Phil_Neal

    @schoolsict It is our policy that an academy has to license in its own right. ~£12K for a sec. We have already spent well into 7 figures!

    My Follow up

    @Phil_Neal Why not allow Academy's to transfer their current LA licence FOC ? The schools has already invested money to your 7 figures!!

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    What've they invested their 7 figures on? It isn't on changes to SIMS.net. My guess is sales and marketing. FMS shouldn't be included in that, as it is a separate cost.

    Also, 7 figures? That isn't a huge amount of money to invest on something used by thousands of schools. If academies carry on growing in number, and, say 2000 schools go that way, then that is £24m in licenses. 2000 schools is a conservative figure too, as the number is only ever going to increase. They will have made well past 7 figures back from fees from the schools that have bought SIMS.net so far.

    So, that makes little sense other than confirming that their profits are excessive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webman View Post
    Thanks very much to the very narrow-minded forum member who gave me negative rep for that reply, with the comment "Wishful thinking". Yes, it is wishful thinking, and about time something had an impact on the monopoly!
    I thought it was fair comment so you can have a thumbs up from me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bodminman View Post
    I thought it was fair comment so you can have a thumbs up from me!
    same +rep

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    same +rep
    Again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberNerd View Post
    same +rep
    I have apparently rep'd @webman recently, so when I can rep again...rinse and repeat

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