General Chat Thread, Getting rid of ICT Suites in General; Nice article but you didn't mention the costs involved in providing a wireless infrastructure. (Assuming they want internet access) and ...
26th May 2011, 02:29 PM #16
Nice article but you didn't mention the costs involved in providing a wireless infrastructure. (Assuming they want internet access) and the difficulties of connecting 16 - 32 laptops all at once. I know wireless is improving but there is still a cost for the better kit and I think the bandwidth sharing problem will be around for a long time yet, especially for the more cash strapped primaries out there.
26th May 2011, 02:38 PM #17
Same as that - we have got rid of 12 laptop trolleys and move to having 15 IT suites (pretty much each department has one) and they are better looked after. We purchase a desktop at £350 which will last 4/5 years whereas you buy a laptop at £400~ and it will last 3 at a max.
Originally Posted by mthomas08
Also if a keyboard breaks it doesn't cost £40/50 to replace.
I certainly in an educational environment wouldn't go to a full wireless solution with only laptops
26th May 2011, 02:43 PM #18
At 8/900 machines if we banked £200 per machine per year we would have to bank £160,000/£180,000 each year
Originally Posted by GrumbleDook
not going to happen!
26th May 2011, 04:33 PM #19
Oh, this is presuming that the school already has that (have a watch of an earlier blog post containing a ranting movie).
Originally Posted by alan-d
26th May 2011, 04:35 PM #20
As mentioned ... figures are purely used for explanation ... and another chunk of reality is that the 3/4 year turn around will quickly become 4/5 depending on money ...
Originally Posted by glennda
26th May 2011, 04:59 PM #21
The ratio of broken laptops to broken desktops here must be around 10:1, I've got a pile of 5 laptops on my technicians desk waiting to be fixed, and I hate them, staff are now wary of laptops, where as the 4 year old desktops are going fine, and will be much improved after the RAM upgrade I'm planning over half term. So for £10 per desktop, they'll keep going for another 2 years or so, where as I've got to start looking at replacement screens, batteries, battery packs, keyboards and motherboards for the laptops which have been broken, misused or worn out.
This is not to mention the number of times students have accidentally turned off the wireless and so can't login or access the internet. Plus students have lost respect for laptops, swinging them about, carrying them up and down stairs, holding them in one hand and all manner of things which make me wince.
This isn't to say laptops don't have their place, I think they're brilliant for Science labs, and for topping up ICT Suites for Managed Coursework, or if they're aren't quite enough PCs to go around, but I would never replace an ICT Suite with a "mobile solution" unless I knew the teacher was brilliant at managing the classroom, the wireless was flawless and the desks and trolley were based on RM's wildcharge technology.
26th May 2011, 05:08 PM #22
To some extent I didn't go into the classroom management side of things as this, in my experience, is far better in primary than secondary schools ... and whilst I would love to say that it is a given, I am also presuming that there is an understanding that there is an awareness with the teachers that they will have to make sure more care is taken ... and the examples given are only a few to show this ... but they are based on real numbers in real schools.
26th May 2011, 05:10 PM #23
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26th May 2011, 05:22 PM #24
I face losing my ICT Suite in the near future as we've run out of rooms in the school. Being fee-paying the extra income from nums on seats should pay for the laptops and more. I know why we need to lose the Suite, but I have misgivings.
26th May 2011, 05:38 PM #25
I'll give you the teacher's perspective (or at least mine, as an ex teacher).
As a science teacher I would fill out my apparatus requisition sheet for the following week (magnets, iron filings, microscopes blah blah) and I could just tick a box to order a trolley load of laptops. easy peasy. But, If I wanted to use an ICT room, I had to go to the technology department to book it, then traipse my class down there on the day (because I'd forgotten to tell them of the room change the previous lesson,duh). So, as far as I was concerned the laptop trolley was the easier option. Unfortunately, inevitably, 1/4 of the machines didn't work, another 1/4 had flat batteries, half of the rest (another quarter, for those keeping up) took three weeks to boot up (I exaggerate, only 40 minutes) and most of the rest either wouldn't receive a signal or had their setting changed by some little herbert in another lesson.
Soooo, although booking the IT suite was less convenient, at least the machines worked and we got some work done!
26th May 2011, 06:30 PM #26
In the situation here (primary) where the head wants to get rid of the suite, staff dont, going to get Ruckus network in summer but reading between the lines if it proves ok he wants to get rid of the suite and get more netbooks and some pads. Not my preference and i teach the majority of the ict curriculum! Open to getting pads/netbooks but not at cost of a suite that just works, no ifs or buts. Suppose in the end i'll just do as i'm told. Finishing with one of my schools in the summer and the above was just one of the reasons, my choice to leave not pushed.
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