General Chat Thread, Please Note: This Thread Contains Links To The Bin Laden 'Death Picture' in General; I think that conspiracy theorists are being handed a golden opportunity to spread misinformation and doubt about the recent events ...
2nd May 2011, 02:52 PM #1
Please Note: This Thread Contains Links To The Bin Laden 'Death Picture'
I think that conspiracy theorists are being handed a golden opportunity to spread misinformation and doubt about the recent events in Afghanistan [those that are so inclined]
Question: Was Osama Bin Laden actually killed in the attack?
The Conspiracy theorists' replies:
- No because we haven't seen a body [buried at sea: Why?]
- The death picture proves nothing except that someone in the American military can use photoshop:
Link: Note: Depicts a face mutilated fire/explosion: Osama Bin Laden Death Picture
Left: Osama Bin Laden [well know picture], Centre: Death picture, Right: The two pictures superimposed.
For my part I am not saying that I would agree with conspiracy theories [I find them annoying and generally ill informed] but I can see a new rash of these theories popping up following these events.
Last edited by DaveP; 2nd May 2011 at 03:02 PM.
Reason: Correct spelling mistake.
2nd May 2011, 03:30 PM #2
BBC News said he was shot in the head twice not bombed?!
As for the buried at sea and so quick, simply due to religious traditions, that side of the world isn't big on having the dead hanging around in a morgue for a few days they like to do things very quickly, there would be en-mass outrage is the US had taken his body and kept it for a few months of poking etc then put it to rest in the sea.
Thanks to john from:
speckytecky (2nd May 2011)
2nd May 2011, 03:34 PM #3
I believe it is in line with Islamic tradition to bury the body within 24 hours of death.
A burial at sea, rather than on land, will make it more difficult for supporters to create a focal point where Bin Laden's body can be venerated, and around which his supporters can gather.
@john : Beat me to it!
2nd May 2011, 05:38 PM #4
3rd May 2011, 08:09 AM #5
in the same way its said why let truth get in the way of a good story, the same goes for why let reality get in the way of a good photo
3rd May 2011, 08:16 AM #6
He was buried at sea for a list of reasons:
1. The USA couldn't find anyone who wanted his body to do a proper Islamic burial
2. The USA did not want his final resting place to become a shrine
3. They supposedly did wish to do a burial within 24 hours, to somewhat appease the Muslim world.
However, the conspiracy theorists will be out in their droves. You could have his family identifying his body and people would still shout 'fake!' - just like with Obama's birth certificate.
What makes me annoyed and saddened is the way in which people in the USA reacted - cheering, chanting and generally behaving like arrogant idiots. This sort of behaviour will do only one thing - enrage the already angry terrorists/extremists and potentially make the whole situation worse.
3rd May 2011, 08:16 AM #7
All this is built around at the fact governments never really tell the whole truth, tell us what we want to hear, tell us what we need to hear and occasionally lie. So in the end no one really believes in anything.
On the other hand, why turn around and say he is dead now? to be frank, will it change my life? Nope.
I will continue to get up and go to work, pay my bills and eat my mars bar
3rd May 2011, 08:21 AM #8
Yeap, you could have his DNA matched brain in a snap lock bag and there would still be a large proportion that would not beleive. You are so right about the reaction, it just screams advanced civilisation when you have people cheering in the streets because someone was killed. We just need to wait for Apple to come out with the iDunkingStool and iWitchFinder for the dark ages to kick off again.
Originally Posted by localzuk
3rd May 2011, 08:34 AM #9
Could we perhaps also see the certificate which states that Donald Trump's "hair" is real?
Originally Posted by localzuk
3rd May 2011, 09:40 AM #10
Speaking of hair, did anyone notice that Bin Laden had more grey hair on his beard when he was alive than he did when he was dead?
3rd May 2011, 09:52 AM #11
There is such a thing called Dye?
Originally Posted by alan-d
3rd May 2011, 09:59 AM #12
OK I admit that I didn't know the guy but he never struck me as someone who would pop out for some Grecian 2000!
Originally Posted by mthomas08
3rd May 2011, 10:15 AM #13
One quote (I think from John McCain) was "I am overjoyed that we finally got the world's top terrorist. The world is a better and more just place now that Osama Bin Laden is no longer in it. I hope the families of the victims of the September 11 attacks will sleep easier tonight and every night hence knowing that justice has been done."
Originally Posted by localzuk
the worlds top terrorist? is this like america beating the final boss of a game or something?
the world a better and more just place because one person, the face of al-qaeda, is gone....yet the hundreds/thousands of al-qaeda troops on the ground still live? yep that works for me. i'm sure someone will bring out the "cut off the snakes head" quote but lets face it, osama or not, terrorism will still exist. all the politicians seem to think with him dead we will all be joining hands and singing Kumbaya as world peace is a cetainty. For them maybe, flying private jets and having armed escorts. For Joe Public who still has to use public transport and is an easier target, not as safe as they might want us to think
3rd May 2011, 10:40 AM #14
What America has done is create a new martyr.
Originally Posted by MK-2
Unfortunately, this will come back to bite the West on the a** over the next few years.
Do they really think that there is no contingency plan, in place, for when OBL was captured/killed? I think that we have stirred up the biggest hornets nest, and we will be stung quite badly.
MK-2 has it right!
3rd May 2011, 10:48 AM #15
Apparently according to the muslim Mecca the grave has to point in a certain direction, this was not possible burying at sea
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