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    Quote Originally Posted by dhicks View Post
    You can set up a Samba/Ghostscript print server that uses a standard Windows Postscript printer driver (i.e. one shipped with Windows) to print to a PDF document, then have Windows pass that PDF document to whichever printer you want. All your clients then see every printer as the same generic Postscript printer which they already have drivers for.
    Yeap, that does not solve the issue of home printer use though as Windows still needs a driver to connect to the local home printer and setting up a Samba server at each home for the student laptops would be time consuming

    I understood that there's starting to be a move towards web-based video editing - ITN were using a web-based system for in-the-field reporting a couple of years ago, I imagine the practice is spreading. It rather implies that any tool-specific training on is going to be pretty pointless, by the time secondary pupils actually get into industry their available toolset will have changed somewhat. I wonder if video-editing might actually be best taught via manual cutting and splicing of physical film - it's the UI paradigm used in most video editing packages, and would give pupils and understanding of what they were actually doing.
    Eep, web based video editing, I can't think of a worse idea for real work, why are people insisting on putting the HTTP layer in the middle of everything. It is not designed or suited to it, why not just start putting wooden wheels on cars. Sure its fine for little toy videos but real quality editing that does not introduce epic (in computational terms) delays into every aspect of the work is just mental.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SYNACK View Post
    Yeap, that does not solve the issue of home printer use though as Windows still needs a driver to connect to the local home printer and setting up a Samba server at each home for the student laptops would be time consuming
    You could have your school's PDF printer available as an iPrint printer that pupils could connect to from home. Alternativly, set up a PDF-printing utility locally on each machine that connected to the school to send back a PDF document.

    web based video editing, I can't think of a worse idea for real work
    But the computational model fits perfectly. You can do all the processor-intensive processing server-side, where you can potentially have dedicated acceleration hardware and so on. All the web interface has to show is a low-bandwidth, easily-indexable "preview" version of the footage for editing. It might not quite compare with having a dedicated video editing workstation with high-speed local storage and so forth for an individual editing movie footage (although, actually, I think it might if the user interface was developed well enough), but for a group editing footage of a science experiment it should do nicly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhicks View Post
    You could have your school's PDF printer available as an iPrint printer that pupils could connect to from home. Alternativly, set up a PDF-printing utility locally on each machine that connected to the school to send back a PDF document.
    Yea, still does not allow printing to home though which a bunch would want.

    Quote Originally Posted by dhicks View Post
    But the computational model fits perfectly. You can do all the processor-intensive processing server-side, where you can potentially have dedicated acceleration hardware and so on. All the web interface has to show is a low-bandwidth, easily-indexable "preview" version of the footage for editing. It might not quite compare with having a dedicated video editing workstation with high-speed local storage and so forth for an individual editing movie footage (although, actually, I think it might if the user interface was developed well enough), but for a group editing footage of a science experiment it should do nicly.
    Not really unless you are springing for ultra super servers or one per couple of users. First you have to get all the information there, a big bandwidth task and another big user when its done and needs to be sent back. Processor speed is cheap especially for single user stations, but provision the same amount on a server with server CPUs and appropriate hardware to provide the hardware bandwidth etc is going to cost way more. If you are doing it even remotely seriously you want high def or end result preview anyway. Again, fine for a toy but for real work you are just making it more complicated and expencive than it needs to be.

    SATA1 runs at a dedicated 1.2GBit/s and cheap DDR2 RAM runs at around 130GBit/s, compare this to 1GB shared ethernet and this is just comparing it to the cheapest of boxes that you can get now. Then you have the whole lack of overhead being able to just store raw stuff in memory as opposed to continuously packaging and unpacking it into high latency processor intencive TCP then sending it over the wire.

    You can get a desktop that would kick the stuffing out of a web based solution for much less than some frilly iPad and it does not require a whole mess of hardware inbetween. Not everything has to go through a filthy unstable pile of browser code to be an acceptable solution.

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