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    I think some of the questions were a little too invasive - particularly the one about which passports you currently hold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tech_guy View Post
    I think some of the questions were a little too invasive - particularly the one about which passports you currently hold.
    Why is that invasive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    Why is that invasive?
    Well, it has been the case in recent times that they have not taken away someone's passport as they would effectively be stateless -so maybe if they know that you hold two passports, they can make a note that if you are a bad boy they can take away your British passport

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    I hold 3 passports...

    British
    German
    American

    My dad is Quarter English, Quarter Scottish and Half American, and my mum is German, my birth got registered at US and German Embassies which entitles me to US, German and British Passports...great for when I go travelling, just pull out the appropriate ones

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    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
    I hold 3 passports...

    British
    German
    American

    My dad is Quarter English, Quarter Scottish and Half American, and my mum is German, my birth got registered at US and German Embassies which entitles me to US, German and British Passports...great for when I go travelling, just pull out the appropriate ones
    I am amazed that you were able to get a US passport when you are effectively only one quarter American!
    mrwITch is half what was then Yugoslavia but he couldn't have got a yugoslav passport when he was born

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    I was classified as a "natural American born overseas", as was my dad. My granddad was one of the Americans that stayed over from the war.

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    I hold two passports but I don't think the government has a right to know the details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
    I was classified as a "natural American born overseas", as was my dad. My granddad was one of the Americans that stayed over from the war.
    So what's the minimum amount of US blood you can have and still get a US passport?

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    Quote Originally Posted by witch View Post
    So what's the minimum amount of US blood you can have and still get a US passport?
    Ask Obama?

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    No clue...My daughter wasn't allowed to be registered, but since the early 90's, a massive heap of restrictions have gone on getting citizenship and passports. (I was reg'd mid 80s)

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    Quote Originally Posted by witch View Post
    So what's the minimum amount of US blood you can have and still get a US passport?
    I think if you are born on american soil you qualify for a passport. Even if your parents are not americans.

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    That is true, as you are classed as a "natural born American" (as stated in their constitution). What a lovely system they have, however only the mother is allowed to stay with the child until said child is 18, at that point the mother applies for citizenship or gets deported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    I think if you are born on american soil you qualify for a passport. Even if your parents are not americans.
    I'm sure that I read somewhere that the US government is in the process of changing this and it won't apply soon.

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    I'm working towards getting my Irish passport as my Dad was British Irish (born in '38, served in RAF in 60s, lived in UK for most of his life).

    As for completing the census ... the data may take ages to process but considering that some of the trends they are looking at are not linked to the needs of *this* Govt but of Govts over the years ... whichever govt is in power at the time (whether local or central) will use whatever data they have available but departments do not always share data ... partly because there are restrictions on what data is used and how it gets moved around.

    Refusal to complete the census is a personal choice, but one that could affect others as even a handful of responses can make a difference. The use of the data for historical reference is important. For some people it can affect their nationality, for others links to medical histories, and for some it can have financial implications.

    For all those stating about how the internet is changing everything ... don't forget that it is official documents which make a difference. Whilst the idea that the internet will hold everything forever ... it doesn't mean that it will be usable. If you look at old newspaper articles from the late 1900s they can give you a wealth of information but they are not usable for official purposes. The census is. Would you fail to register a birth or death? The usual counter-argument to this about people who choose to co-habit rather than marry ... but then you don't have the same legal standing ... that is why you have civil partnerships now.

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