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    Quote Originally Posted by MK-2 View Post
    You have a credit card bill of £100,000 and have two options:

    - paying the minimum off each month and having more to spend elsewhere because of it, but knowing it will take you many years to pay off because the interest will pretty much cancel out what you pay
    - paying a lot of it off each month, meaning it might be tougher to afford things, but knowing that once it is paid off quicker, you are clear of debt?

    paying less off the deficit may be less stressful to the economy in the short run, but i'm sure someone here said the interest is something like £1million a day. so the longer we leave it, the more we will end up paying.
    and i usually dont agree with parties blaming each other, but as the previous govmt were in power for a long time, they had more than enough chance to change things, this government is making the changes that make them unpopular but is dragging us out of debt
    all true but if you tax less you may get peiople/business spending/investing more so get more actual money in

    is a million pounds a pay in govrnment numbers actually that much tbh? if it wasnt being paid to banks in interest how much difference would it actually make? id bet not a lot really

    has to be said im not a fan of teh tories but then last time they were in power they did pretty much shut down industry in my home county and one of the firast things they did in power this time was cancel a loan to one of those same industrys

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    It is far more than £1m a day. Last year, the UK paid £42.9 billion in interest on its debt. That is £118m a day.

    Or, 6 new high schools a day, if you pay about £20m per school...

    It would pay for a barrage across the Severn, which would provide cheap electricity for 1/5th of the country.

    Or build high speed rail lines... etc...
    Last edited by localzuk; 24th March 2011 at 11:13 AM.

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    I doubt all our wages clumped together would even make a dent in the suface of the interest payment...

    I think the human race are evolving into the Ferengi...

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    Cigarettes affect more than the individual smoking them. Sure, we now have smoking bans and the like, but how about when I walk down the street and the guy in front of me is smoking, and his smoke is going straight in my face? That's not healthy.
    What about both your's & Gatts exhaust emissions going in MY face.

    Yes, I'm being pedantic but I feel the smokers get a very "holier than thou" attitude directed against them.There are some DOCTORS who say there is no evidence passive smoking is harmful.

    BTW, I don't smoke, just passing my observations as a devils advocate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HallX View Post
    What about both your's & Gatts exhaust emissions going in MY face.
    Considering exhaust pipes are about 1 foot off the ground I fail to see how that my emissions go into your face - unless you are hangin onto my rear bumper on a skateboard ?

    Yes, I'm being pedantic but I feel the smokers get a very "holier than thou" attitude directed against them.
    **bites lip & tongue**

    There are some DOCTORS who say there is no evidence passive smoking is harmful.
    Err.. Roy Castle anyone??

    BTW, I don't smoke, just passing my observations as a devils advocate.
    Fair enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by HallX View Post
    What about both your's & Gatts exhaust emissions going in MY face.
    I don't drive.

    Yes, I'm being pedantic but I feel the smokers get a very "holier than thou" attitude directed against them.There are some DOCTORS who say there is no evidence passive smoking is harmful.
    Sorry but a few fringe doctors does not change the consensus that passive smoking harms people. The only people who have come out to say there are no links, as far as I can see, have been funded by the tobacco industry...

    The 'holier than thou' attitude is down to the pressure they put on our healthcare system, and the overall negative effects they have on people.

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    I should also mention that my car had its MOT on monday - and for an S reg car - the emissions were right down at the minimum! (can't recall them all but one scale was 2500 - 3000 PPM, mine was 2506PPM..
    The others were a similar story

    Buses on the other hand....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatt View Post
    Considering exhaust pipes are about 1 foot off the ground I fail to see how that my emissions go into your face - unless you are hangin onto my rear bumper on a skateboard ?
    It does'nt have to be blown in my face to be dangerous. I'm sure your not saying people actually line up to blow smoke in your face, that would be bullying

    Quote Originally Posted by Gatt View Post
    Err.. Roy Castle anyone??
    Many people who have never been near a jazz club have died of lung cancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HallX View Post
    It does'nt have to be blown in my face to be dangerous.
    - Never said anything about it not being dangerous
    Quote Originally Posted by HallX View Post
    I'm sure your not saying people actually line up to blow smoke in your face, that would be bullying
    Bus Stops?
    Train Stations
    Outside doors of offices, shops, etc...

    So err. yeah I am

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    @Gatt

    Tell you whats bad. When I'm cycling toward a bus at the bus stop & the driver pulls away because "he/she has'nt seen me", & I get a good lung full of diesel smoke.

    At this point I'd wished I'd walked past the stop & just breathed tobacco smoke :-D

    edit-Enough of this thread hijacking anyway, have a good day!!

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    It's all localzuk's fault then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatt View Post
    It's all localzuk's fault then
    Absolutely lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatt View Post
    It's all localzuk's fault then
    What now? That's unfair!

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    For facilitating the need for public transport

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    The 'holier than thou' attitude is down to the pressure they put on our healthcare system, and the overall negative effects they have on people.
    I refer you back to my first comment regarding alcohol. You can't move in A&E in the early hours for drunks.



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