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    Quote Originally Posted by joe90bass View Post
    @aerospace -cheers!
    My pleasure, buddy!

    I was in the RAF, so took great interest in that book, as I was on basic training at RAF Swinderby, in 1986, and a Vulcan flew over at 500ft.

    The ground shook..........

    It was almost the best thing I saw, whilst I was in HMForces!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatt View Post
    Funny how this starts just as we start complaining about the price of petrol again...
    You must have been living under a rock too then, because I've been complaining about the price of petrol for the last 2 years!

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    A country that fights itself over political control will not get the interest of the UN, and if you look at egypt as a start, that was relatively civil all things considered; for a group of people to go about fighting in the streets, it is a local issue for themselves to work out.

    In Libya, the rebellion has not been met, tbh from either side with civil manners. They have in the scheme of politics gone straight to throwing things at eachother, and certainly Gadaffi doesn't care if a few civilians get hit along the way.

    Iraq was entered because there was a potential threat of WMD's is the main reason. This has been questioned repeatedly, and regardless of the end outcome, there was some justification in doing it, just the wrong ones were given. The country was not in a good way.
    Afganistan was a hostile country, directly harbouring terrorists, and so we all went in.
    Egypt in the grand scheme of rebellions was civil, and required no major intervention from other parties.

    Gadaffi has shown to be untrustworthy on promises, has been suspected of strong ties to terrorists in western countries, and has shown no great remorse for the civilian casualties being caused, and seems to be making little/no attempt to minimise them.
    Therefore, we're going in to protect them.

    To break up the direct hostilities would require us to get in the middle of a political conflict which is bad, and would result in loss of life on all sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe90bass View Post
    Since the Falklands?

    Great book details the mission
    You might be right there. I was under the impression the Falklands missions were launched from Ascension Island.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJonas View Post
    You might be right there. I was under the impression the Falklands missions were launched from Ascension Island.
    Nope...they took off from here....went via Ascension Island, and onto Falklands via re-fuelling with VC-10 tankers (I believe!)

    It was almost the best thing I saw, whilst I was in HMForces!
    Best thing I ever saw:

    Harriers coming into land, on the deck of HMS Ark Royal, in a force 9 gale......Ahhhhhh....Memories!!!

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    Ah went via Ascension Island so not a direct flight then.

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    semantics :P lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by nephilim View Post
    semantics :P lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by teejay View Post
    There was no support from other African countries to do this in Zimbabwe, with our colonial background in Africa it would've caused all sort of other problems if we'd intervened, plus we wouldn't have got an UN resolution due to Zimbabwe's links with China.
    With Libya there is support of the Arab League, including military support.
    In that case we should cease sending aid to the african nations, giving them money is so colonial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TechMonkey View Post
    Yep, a great mix of hurrah for the can do attitude & WTF at some of the bodging bits.
    Sounds like a lot of our wars...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aerospacemango View Post
    Nope...they took off from here....went via Ascension Island, and onto Falklands via re-fuelling with VC-10 tankers (I believe!)
    Victors not VC-10s. I seem to recall there was a "daisy chain" of sorts, with some Victors refuelling the others that would then refuel the Vulcan closest to the Falklands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aerospacemango View Post
    I was in the RAF, so took great interest in that book, as I was on basic training at RAF Swinderby, in 1986, and a Vulcan flew over at 500ft.

    The ground shook..........

    It was almost the best thing I saw, whilst I was in HMForces!
    YouTube - Vulcan Full Power Take Off RAF Waddington 2008

    I was there :-)

    I also grew up 4 miles from RAF Finningly when the Vulcans were based there. No wonder our school always needed new windows lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by HallX View Post
    YouTube - Vulcan Full Power Take Off RAF Waddington 2008

    I was there :-)

    I also grew up 4 miles from RAF Finningly when the Vulcans were based there. No wonder our school always needed new windows lol
    Amazing aircraft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydra View Post
    To break up the direct hostilities would require us to get in the middle of a political conflict which is bad, and would result in loss of life on all sides.
    Except that we seem to be doing exactly that now - how long will it be before one of Gadaffis military guys respond by blowing a jet out of the air? Then what?

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    @Witch - they did that in 1988 :|

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