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    I'm hopeing that the exposure is less and the get it contained. Even our news agencies in NZ have nuclear scientists on stating that the progression of events and the explainations given don't quite add up.
    Last edited by SYNACK; 15th March 2011 at 08:33 AM.

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    That was a fascinating read. And terrifying, for showing how distorted every media source has been up till now. Which will prevent us building nuclear, which is our only option to prevent a power shortfall in the near future, and the media will once again cry off of all responsibility and hide behind excuses of "reporting what people want to hear", except people don't know what they want to hear, because you never damn well tell them the alternative.


    Grrrr big media.

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    Compare the BBC who say...

    Quote Originally Posted by Radiation fears after Japan blast
    An American warship, the USS Ronald Reagan, has detected low levels of radiation at a distance of 100 miles (161km) from the Fukushima plant.
    With the LA Times who say...

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. aircraft carrier ordered farther away from radiation from Japanese nuclear plant
    Low levels of radiation were detected among 17 crew members of helicopters ferrying supplies to the island. The contamination was "easily removed by washing with soap and water," officials said.
    ...so by "conveniently" failing to inform readers that the contamination was on helicopters flying to and from the plant, they give the impression that the fallout has already travelled 100 miles

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonofsanta View Post
    That was a fascinating read. And terrifying, for showing how distorted every media source has been up till now. Which will prevent us building nuclear, which is our only option to prevent a power shortfall in the near future, and the media will once again cry off of all responsibility and hide behind excuses of "reporting what people want to hear", except people don't know what they want to hear, because you never damn well tell them the alternative.


    Grrrr big media.
    This is an unfortunate sideffect, the reactors that are breaking are all old designs, there are newer liquid salt and micro reactors that are exponentially safer and more environmentally freindly when it comes to nuclear waste. The problem is that this technology has been hampered by mostly unfounded concerns.

    Sure in this instance there are some very real and horrible conciquences related to the technology when it is exposed to an epic disaster and hopefully there will be more lessons learned from it and the disaster can be contained as much as possible.

    Running away from the technology all together is not the answer though and this disaster should not be used as a tool to discredit the merits of nuclear power. This is a horrible situation and has the potential to get much worse but it should not be used to slow development of the technology again or things like this will happen again because it is too unpopular to further the research and find the solution.

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    Other countries are now looking to shut down their oldest plants and assess if atomic energy is the future based on the events in Japan... wow that's a massive over reaction! Yes assess and make it safer but stop using it altogether?
    Last edited by CHR1S; 15th March 2011 at 11:21 AM. Reason: should be assess not asses oops

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHR1S View Post
    Other countries are now looking to shut down their oldest plants and assess if atomic energy is the future based on the events in Japan... wow that's a massive over reaction! Yes assess and make it safer but stop using it altogether?
    Disagree with your last point - I think you're doing a tabloid style misreading of "assess if atomic energy is the future" and assuming that there's only 1 possible outcome of that assessment (ie give up on nuclear) when there are obviously multiple possible outcomes of the assessment ("carry on as we are; current systems are fine", "carry on but add an extra level of containment", etc, etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by srochford View Post
    Disagree with your last point - I think you're doing a tabloid style misreading of "assess if atomic energy is the future" and assuming that there's only 1 possible outcome of that assessment (ie give up on nuclear) when there are obviously multiple possible outcomes of the assessment ("carry on as we are; current systems are fine", "carry on but add an extra level of containment", etc, etc)
    Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has ordered Russia's nuclear agency to carry out a review of the future of the atomic energy sector in the country in the wake of the Japanese earthquake, AFP news agency reports.
    Germany is moving to shut down its oldest nuclear reactors as Chancellor Angela Merkel convenes crisis talks on the future of atomic energy in light of events in Japan, Reuters said.
    Meanwhile Roland Nelles says in Der Spiegel that nuclear power in Germany is finished.
    Im only taking it as I read it...

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    BBC News - The fear of nuclear

    Is the BBC discussing what we're discussing, although it still strikes as a little uneven.

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    Fukushima now up to a Level 6 crisis....out of 7 levels, that's pretty bad.

    Why would we stop Nuclear Power stations, when we don't live next to a fault line?

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    We do live on a fault line(s) they are just not very active.

    Earthquakes in the UK

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    Quote Originally Posted by aerospacemango View Post
    Fukushima now up to a Level 6 crisis....out of 7 levels, that's pretty bad.

    Why would we stop Nuclear Power stations, when we don't live next to a fault line?
    IAEA says now at level 4

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    BBCBreaking BBC Breaking News
    Accident at #Japan's Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant upgraded to level six crisis, on scale of seven, say French officials - AFP

    source:Twitter

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    Just been on Sky news. IAEA getting their data from the Japanese.

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