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    Re: To: Network Managers

    For comparison, Somerset LEA here, and the IT Support/Systems Manager (no-one's actually defined what it's called but I have overall responsibility for all of it, and am responsible for running two departments (IT support, Media Support))

    Currently I'm on 22k/year fulltime, but again, not sure what point on the scale, as it's never been disclosed

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    Re: To: Network Managers

    Quote Originally Posted by rob101
    Lee I am quite sure you will be subject to the new council pay reform thats currently happing so any change you get agreed may be wiped out when it kicks in.

    All i know is all LEA schools are going to have all there grades redone in this reform from the information i have gained so far from other places its not looking good, But i will wait and see.

    I am also on a crapy wage for the responsibilities i hold but when i tryed to get it changed i got told as we have a out side company to support you you dont have as much responsibilities to worry about.

    But im the person onsite that takes the flak when stuff goes wrong.

    Good luck Lee i hope you get what you want.
    His name is Chris. I'm Lee. And i'm perfectly happy with my salary at the moment.

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    No one can be happy with their salaries. Don't we all want more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BooBoo
    No one can be happy with their salaries. Don't we all want more.
    Thats why i said at the moment. Give it 6 months and i may want more. Now the next question is: what makes somebody currently satisfied with their salary.


    @Chris: Is your LA doing the Single Status grading review?
    Could you get hold of a standard network managers JD from HR? If you can show that you are doing more than that you may be able to get some more. Failing that look for a new job... and dont be quiet about it. Tell someone who values your contributions and has the ear of the head.

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    Re: To: Network Managers

    Quote Originally Posted by BooBoo
    No one can be happy with their salaries. Don't we all want more.
    Even the head who are on >£80k a year and all they do is delegate all the work to Deputies and Assistants..

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    I'd disagree with mrforgetful I've worked in a couple of schools and the heads in them deserve the wages they get paid in my experience, not all of them want more wages though.


    @derer1: Sounds like Grade 6 to me?


    Wes

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    Hi Chris,

    OK, looked in to this a bit for you.

    Union for the ancillary staff (e.g. non-teaching staff) is Unison. The Senior Site Officer here at The Park High School in King's Lynn is the Shop Steward for the area. If you want to chat to him then PM me and i'll send you his details.

    Pay wise, I'm on Scale 6 now, even though I was pushing for SO1 / 2 . Better than nothing. I'm also in charge of a Technician, who in my opinion is on a pathetic wage for his skills, and who I' fighting to get more pay. I earn a touch under £1800 per month before deductions.

    I also control 2 budgets, run the whole network, repairs, software testing, installation, contractors and setting up computer based exams and also general dogsbody duties.

    I do moan alot about it, but I do enjoy it.

    When I went for my pay review I had to present evidence of the work I was now doing and why I deserved a pay rise. Its the only one I've had in 5 years here apart from the yearly April pay rise.

    As, I've said in my PM to you, i'll be happy to help where I can.

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    I'm a Unison rep.

    I've had great success recently with Unison. The main worth sems to me is in making your employer abide by their own rules.

    Here in Wales we're due a review where we're told all staff doing a similar job should be on comparable wages. That'd be good as the County Council's support staff are on a far better rate than the schools techs are. But then I don't ever see any job scales changing as a result. All I get is fobbed off and the due date postponed every time I ask about it.

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    Which county are you in mark?

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    Re: To: Network Managers

    I work as a network manager in East Durham, what was old coalfield country, mostly rural & an area of high unemployment & social depravation. My school regraded me from scale 6 to SO2 April 06, backdated to Sep 05. It can be done if the school is willing to accept a) your value b) you are asking for the going rate c) they have money available. The last one may not be so easy if you are well through a financial year (as we are now) but there is no excuse for not putting it in the budget for next year if they accept the case for doing it.

    It remains to be seen if Job Evaluation will maintain NM at SO2 equivalent though.

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    Could someone explain what SO is?

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    Superior Officer

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    Re: To: Network Managers

    Quote Originally Posted by BooBoo
    Could someone explain what SO is?
    SO = Senior Officer

    PO = Principal Officer

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    Re: To: Network Managers

    We are going through a pay review here also for all support staff, under the guidlines set by GLEA.
    Support staff wages are set to rise but the due date for this has been altered many times, i had a pay rise after i had been here a year i mentioned it to the assistant head at the time (enquiring just who i talk to etc) and by the end of the day i had a rise.

    Its all about how you approach them, i normally soften the blow with suggesting something to save them money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kained
    i had a pay rise after i had been here a year i mentioned it to the assistant head at the time (enquiring just who i talk to etc) and by the end of the day i had a rise.
    Similar thing here. I hate to say it but it's office politics. If the face fits and you do a good job they will do their best to keep you for as long as possible.

    @Chris: Remind them how indispensible you are and that to replace you they would need to pay £x amount, and cant guarantee what that person is like. Finding job ad's for the same position in either the same LA or nearby LA's will also give you ammunition (or something to apply for)



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