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    wow...feel i wasted a lot of time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by john View Post
    Before we all go charging in can I point out the points raised a few posts ago, LittleMiss has been working on this behind the scenes with Dos_Box and has been since BETT, and this is quite a detailed draft of the article and I know Dos_box has sent her some more updates for it, its a good detailed draft and covers many key points and integrates sources etc... so no need to be rushing ahead here. More haste less speed otherwise it'll end up being rejected again
    It needs to go up again asap. It is better to have a holder page with some detail on it, than no page at all. The whole point of wikipedia is that it is a collaborative effort...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Miss View Post
    wow...feel i wasted a lot of time...
    No you didn't, anything you've done can be merged in! That's the point of a wiki!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FN-GM View Post
    Please can an admin e-mail: permissions-en@wikimedia.org to give permission to use the logo. If not it will be removed by the 23rd Feb.

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    Shouldn't be needed, as logos are covered by the non-free logo tag, so long as some rationale is supplied (ie. it is the site's logo).

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    And there we go, nominated for deletion already. The admins there really annoy me sometimes.

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    Ok, from the discussion on the deletion debate, the page needs an article in a media source discussing edugeek itself. Are there any interviews or anything in notable publications that cover Edugeek?

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    Ok, from the discussion on the deletion debate, the page needs an article in a media source discussing edugeek itself. Are there any interviews or anything in notable publications that cover Edugeek?
    Learn 4 Life » Interview with Chris Byers - founder of EduGeek

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    Not a notable national publication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    Not a notable national publication.
    Again ... frustrating ... they want notable publications, yet they are willing to include references from notable persons (Celeb interviews, sound bites from politicians, twitter rants by footballers), whether these come via blogs or traditional print. Leon is notable in the education technology arena (according to his peers) but not according to Wikipedia.

    One rule for some and a different one for others.

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    Wikipedia is an odd place, where the content seems to take a back seat to rules and regulations now. I stopped editing there a few years back because of this - I found myself arguing more often than being able to edit articles because some pencil pusher wanted to argue over whether British or American English should be used in an article, or whether the Oxford comma should be used etc...

    Sad really! It puts off new editors too. Imagine turning up there as a new editor only to find your new article deleted within an hour whislt having a list of rules shouted at you. I know I would just leave if that happened to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    Shouldn't be needed, as logos are covered by the non-free logo tag, so long as some rationale is supplied (ie. it is the site's logo).
    I've just email them. Just in case. Oh, and can someone correct my name please. It's Byers, not Buyers
    And thank you so very much everyone who's spent time on this. It's very, very welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dos_Box View Post
    Erm. I've just had a read of it and it does need work. A lot f work i ffact. Little Miss has all of the details you need, so if she can get those up that would be better, and more accurate. I was NOT an IT manager by the way. I was a Systems Manager and chief techy for Lancashire schools
    Sure, it needs work! It reads very poorly at the moment. But a poorly written article is better than no article, so we really need to get nationally notable sources in there before anything else.

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    Problems with that - the 'noted for high quality' bit. Without a source saying that, it wouldn't be acceptable. Also, the influence and reach part would also need a source. Same for the moderation and efforts bit.

    They are very fussy about sources. They have to be secondary/tertiary sources also - primary sources can only be used in limited circumstances (eg. to source the goals of the site, you could link to an 'about edugeek' post or something like that).

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    Problems with that - the 'noted for high quality' bit. Without a source saying that, it wouldn't be acceptable. Also, the influence and reach part would also need a source. Same for the moderation and efforts bit.

    They are very fussy about sources. They have to be secondary/tertiary sources also - primary sources can only be used in limited circumstances (eg. to source the goals of the site, you could link to an 'about edugeek' post or something like that).
    Although there have been some lovely cases where articles in national papers have cited Wikipedia as a source - and then been cited as sources on the very article pages that they're referring to. Recursion is fun.

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    Audience Snapshot -
    Based on internet averages, edugeek.net is visited more frequently by males who are in the age range 25-34 and browse this site from work.

    Citation - Edugeek.net Site Info

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