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    Quote Originally Posted by Hightower View Post
    But how do you know it's sgs-exch-001 instead of sgs-exc-001? Because you learned it right? So how is that any different to learning that Thomas is the 1st DC, that Hank is the big ESXi server?
    Well its like programming variables I always ddi it to standard like intTeacherNumber I've read code that has random variable referencing, which isnt fun the next person!

    If you started at my place you always know that sgs- for every server (Stretford Grammar School) then role (dc, sp, file, sql) then all end in 001 unless more like file-002 etc..

    I would hate to go into a enterprise and have random names

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    Quote Originally Posted by webman View Post
    The clue's in the name?
    yeah, but could you come here and tell me what my zimbra server is called without looking? you'd need to look at documentation first. likewise, could you come here and tell me which DC lexia is installed to, without looking at documentation.

    Structured:
    XXX-DC-001
    XXX-DC-002
    XXX-DC-003

    Tell me which of those hosts Lexia. Tell me which one of those hosts our AV. Tell me which one of those hosts Year 11 students' work.

    Non-Structured:
    Thomas
    Edward
    Henry

    Now answer those questions again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irsprint84 View Post
    Well its like programming variables I always ddi it to standard like intTeacherNumber I've read code that has random variable referencing, which isnt fun the next person!

    If you started at my place you always know that sgs- for every server (Stretford Grammar School) then role (dc, sp, file, sql) then all end in 001 unless more like file-002 etc..

    I would hate to go into a enterprise and have random names
    But your names are still random for an outsider to come in. They are still going to need to poke around to find out what is stored where.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hightower View Post
    But how do you know it's sgs-exch-001 instead of sgs-exc-001? Because you learned it right? So how is that any different to learning that Thomas is the 1st DC, that Hank is the big ESXi server?
    Why couldnt hank be the sql box? (biggest box I have) or the big file server?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hightower View Post
    But your names are still random for an outsider to come in. They are still going to need to poke around to find out what is stored where.
    Even if I didnt leave any documentation you would just go into dns and guess that sgs-file-002 is a file server and sgs-dc-002 is a domain controller, not to hard but when I started this job I have stretford-01, 02, 03, 04, 05 what do all those have on them?

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    I really understand what you are saying, but at a glance (i.e. by looking at your server names) how would I know where your Year 11 kids are stored

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hightower View Post
    yeah, but could you come here and tell me what my zimbra server is called without looking? you'd need to look at documentation first. likewise, could you come here and tell me which DC lexia is installed to, without looking at documentation.

    Structured:
    XXX-DC-001
    XXX-DC-002
    XXX-DC-003

    Tell me which of those hosts Lexia. Tell me which one of those hosts our AV. Tell me which one of those hosts Year 11 students' work.

    Non-Structured:
    Thomas
    Edward
    Henry

    Now answer those questions again.
    DC-001 = Thomas
    DC-002 = Edward
    DC-003 = Henry


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hightower View Post
    I really understand what you are saying, but at a glance (i.e. by looking at your server names) how would I know where your Year 11 kids are stored
    I would be mostly there by guessing file-001 to file-004 have files on them so narrows down to 4 servers then I would go into server manager -> file services -> share management and if keeping with constant names would be year11$ or intakeYEAR$

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    if one server called sgs-sql-001 then it should narrow down to one guess where sql is

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    So do your DC's only do DC work?

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    Yep all virtualised

    Alot easier to seperate than restoring domain services and file shares.

    Enterprise gives you 4 VM for one physical so worth it as RAM is cheap

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    Quote Originally Posted by irsprint84 View Post
    Yep all virtualised

    Alot easier to seperate than restoring domain services and file shares.

    Enterprise gives you 4 VM for one physical so worth it as RAM is cheap
    Well, I can see where it makes sense in your case, but when you have a server that is the jack of all trades how can you possibly give it a meaningful name? XXX-DC-FS-PS-AV-SQL-001

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    Quote Originally Posted by bossman View Post
    What say's you Bert?

    Aaawwwww leeeeve it arrrt I eeze jus gointo cleen these ere chimmiinnies
    I never knew that Bert was from Eastern Europe...I suppose he would be nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hightower View Post
    So do your DC's only do DC work?
    If I didnt find file servers I would look at the DC's because people still use them as file servers

    If standardised you can easily work down sturcture but when I had stretford-03 I hadnt a clue what it did (Though there should always be documentation but 75% of my jobs there hasnt been, even admin passwords!) I found out stretford-04 did absolutly nothing!

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    Physical servers are local place names. When we went virtual I changed to functional names, it would have got silly otherwise.

    At my first school the servers were called Daisy & Buttercup.

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