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General Chat Thread, Most Expensive Red Herring in General; Originally Posted by j17sparky Because "they iz for media and shiz like init" I would also have to say IWBs ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by j17sparky View Post
    Because "they iz for media and shiz like init"


    I would also have to say IWBs and Macs are right up there, but No1 would have to be the 20k+ we spent on video conferencing equipment which never, not once, got used. Oh and the promethean voting crap.
    "They're bare sick for vidz n grafix" in Slough dialect. I didn't have a say in the purchase, I started being told we'd have a few Macs coming in...

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    We have the voting pads, at least 2 laptop trolleys that barely get used oh and a new one to the list, these interactive babies the Heath and Social care/child care courses have, never seen them and never installed the software for them.

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    A couple of years ago IWBs would have won hands down, but with a turnover of teachers, they're all in use every day now and we could do with another one.

    Money wasted.. not on the scale of you larger guys; we're a tiny school. Easyteach English, Maths and Science... never been used as far as I'm aware. Also the portable projector and it's accompanying laptop which seems to get used about every 6 weeks at best going by WSUS's complaints about it not checking in.

    I am concerned that the 3 year Class PET subscription may be wasted money too, but that seems to have taken off this week. We've had it since September.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hightower View Post
    What is the most expensive red herring at your school?
    surely you mean white elephant ?

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    Securus - brought before I started and not used now because it slows the workstations down too much and SMG agreed we could do without it, we're still paying for it on a 3 year agreement thou.

    The VLE was starting to look like that, but we've got a Teacher championing it now and really pushing it, so it's use is on the up.

    The mac suite we have is underused, but has seen an increase as well recently. The main problem we have with these is my lack of knowledge of macs, so I find it difficult to support them.

    Generally thou, if we buy something it is brought with a purpose and I will push its use as much as I can. Sometimes it's just simply informing staff what systems we actually have available on site, as most of them are un-aware of the full facilities we have - this happened recently with the boardworks packages of which we have plenty and they are all loaded in the VLE and available for use, but hardly anyone uses them at the moment - that's my next big push to try and encourage them to be used more.

    Mike.

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    Can't believe no one has mentioned visualizers yet!

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    Easy one to answer this - everything ICT related. Period. I would prefer to see money wasted on ICT in schools spent on D&T, Art, outside play equipment and better teacher training [ SEN for a start ]. Kids are exposed enough to ICT in everyday life. Get it out of schools - it's un-necessary and just a waste of time.
    If I was education minister it would be the first thing I would scrap.
    My personal views etc which I very doubt anyone will agree with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by torledo View Post
    surely you mean white elephant ?
    Define: Red Herring

    any diversion intended to distract attention from the main issue

    White elephant might have been the one I was meaning, but red herring is quite fitting in some cases

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hightower View Post
    Define: Red Herring

    any diversion intended to distract attention from the main issue

    White elephant might have been the one I was meaning, but red herring is quite fitting in some cases
    There is definitely something "Fishy" going on here!

    Cod we just mention the video conferencing again and the plaices where it is used or not hehe!!

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    Think i am gonna have to say Pupils internet access, really beleive they would learn a lot more without it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattx View Post
    Easy one to answer this - everything ICT related. Period. I would prefer to see money wasted on ICT in schools spent on D&T, Art, outside play equipment and better teacher training [ SEN for a start ]. Kids are exposed enough to ICT in everyday life. Get it out of schools - it's un-necessary and just a waste of time.
    If I was education minister it would be the first thing I would scrap.
    My personal views etc which I very doubt anyone will agree with.
    I agree entirely on the basis most departments see it as an easy way to educate kids.

    I'd like to give a class of Year 7's an encyclopdia in a year or so time and ask them to look up and research XYZ and I bet you will get a fair few unable to do so.

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    One of our Deputy Heads!

    He works a few days a week and now only has responsibility for the timetable. Oh and he also sorts out a few quizzes throughout the year and whilst he's doing the questions etc for these he puts a 'Do not disturb' notice over the window of his office!

    And he hounds you like a feckin' dog without a bone if you haven't sorted out query for him within 10 minutes! (Too much time on his hands!)

    So that's a continuous 40k ish per year Red Herring!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumbleDook View Post
    If it is IP based then you just use the JANET gatekeeper ... Unis have been for years.
    EMBC insisted on getting a bespoke gatekeeper installed which never worked. So we were stuck with kit that never got used.

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    our Senoir Leadership Team....

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    I think the saying is "white elephant" rather than "red herring", got me thinking though and had to check the definition. Red herrings are what staff post onto our helpdesk and then we realise they are just making it up and just dreamt it all. In fact, I think each member of staff should have a red herring rating on the helpdesk so we know whether to trust what they are saying or not.

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