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    Re: Sky & Virgin

    Virgin have a page up now to 'explain':

    http://allyours.virginmedia.com/fairplay/index.html

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    Re: Sky & Virgin

    Geoff your school has a 1GB interent connection?

    wow that must cost a fortune.

    Sure you are not getting confused with Monthly Bandwidth.

    I for one think it's virgin who are trying to muscle sky and it has backfired on them.

    This problem did not arise before Virgin took over.

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    Re: Sky & Virgin

    Geoff your school has a 1GB interent connection?
    Yes.

    wow that must cost a fortune.
    It's provided by CLEO + Lancs LEA. It's a flat rate cost based on the number of students. I don't have the figures to hand but it works out at about £4k a year for our school IIRC.

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    Re: Sky & Virgin

    I was just about to think ' thats not many posts.....' [ on VM board ] then when I got to the bottom I saw the link of other pages.... 800 of them...

    http://boards.virginmedia.com/shout/.../fairplay.html

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    Re: Sky & Virgin

    Quote Originally Posted by Disease
    I for one think it's virgin who are trying to muscle sky and it has backfired on them.

    This problem did not arise before Virgin took over.
    You could be right but it does also coincide with the fact that Sky are now offering broadband and phone services plus the fact that Virgin offer quad-play (tv, broadband, landline, mobile).

    The Sky broadband package is rubbish in comparison, requiring your exchange to have the Sky LLU for decent speeds. Also, no mobile. How will Sky keep its customers... make itself the only place that you can see some of the big name shows. Don't forget that this all started several months ago when Sky bought 17.5% of ITV to prvent Virgin taking it over!

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    Re: Sky & Virgin

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoom7000

    I presume sometime in the future Virign will remove UKTV, Bravo, Ftn, etc from Sky and it'll be full blown war!

    Did anyone ever watch Sky Travel?
    Not gonna happen. They would lose 8 Million potential viewers over night, it would cripple them to say the least.

    I do not know what has changed since it was rebadged Virgin Media, but my experience of NTL TV is that its gotta be the worst in the world. The remote is not layed out very well (you can use the Sky without looking no problem), the EPG is very poor, Sky's EPG really shows it up, and i've seen the interactive button make the box lock up lol, 8O .

    Sky have there TV system just right, with the technology NTL have they should be able to do much better since they can send signals back via the cable system very fast, Sky just has a 33.6K modem in it. but no, they have a slow, difficult to use buggy system.

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    Re: Sky & Virgin

    you sure as according the the Cleo webslite:
    Bandwidth
    CLEO aims to deliver bandwidth matched to your schools needs whereever possible. The DfES class a broadband connection as a minimum of 2Mb for primary schools & a minimum of 8Mb for secondary schools. All CLEO connections comply.
    Varies depending on cost – 2Mb & 8Mb available in some urban areas

    Type of bandwidth
    SDSL – identical bandwidth for upload and download (Min 2Mb or greater in both directions) or

    ADSL 2+ Annex M - 3Mb upload and upto 21Mb download.
    ?


    Max download speed is 21mb, which is about the highest ADSL in UK.

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    Re: Sky & Virgin

    Yes, it's fibre for a start. That information you've pulled is hilariously out of date. In Lancs Primaries get 2 - 10mb depending on location. Secondaries usually get either 100mbit or 1Gbit again depending on location. Although I know some schools in East Lancs have slower links because they are using microwave links rather than fibre.

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    Re: Sky & Virgin

    Quote Originally Posted by Quackers
    Not gonna happen. They would lose 8 Million potential viewers over night, it would cripple them to say the least.
    That all depends on exactly how many people actually watch UKTV and other Virgin channels on Sky. I think the majority of these viewers are from Cable as opposed to Sky because Sky have a much wider range of Channels in the same Genre.

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    Re: Sky & Virgin

    Cool, pity they don't do that down here.

    Tell cleo to update their darn website.

    So you get a download speed of 100000kbps download speed.

    I am not having a go at you but I just find it hard to believe that an LEA could afford a 1gb internet pipe which is the top of the line internet connection.

    I can understand that you could have a 1gb fibre link back to the LEA, we have almost the same here, that is not the internet link that is only the wan link and not the actual internet speed.

    Our LEA have a 100mb internet connection.

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    Re: Sky & Virgin

    No we don't get full speed. There's network congestion at the LEA level (mainly their server farm of proxy servers) and where the LEA network joins SuperJanet at Lancaster University.

    Plus there's the added problem of the rest of the internet being on slower uplinks than us.

    It's quite speedy in the summer though when everyone else has cleared off.

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    Re: Sky & Virgin

    1000mb download speed is crazy insane ! Makes our 10mb look like an atari console

    Worse still is that we pay like £10,000 a year for our 10mb and you only pay £4k for the 1000mb

    Just think of all the lovely stuff I could download with that kind of speed !!

    *goes to download a pdf on Cage escape procedures*

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    Re: Sky & Virgin

    Makes our 10mb look like an atari console
    10 Meg ? Makes our 2 meg look like a binatone... [ Our distance from the exchange.... ]

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    Just think of all the lovely stuff I could download with that kind of speed !!
    Shush you, leave my bittorrent tracker alone.

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    Re: Sky & Virgin

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff
    Geoff your school has a 1GB interent connection?
    Yes.

    wow that must cost a fortune.
    It's provided by CLEO + Lancs LEA. It's a flat rate cost based on the number of students. I don't have the figures to hand but it works out at about £4k a year for our school IIRC.
    thats not on the microwave system surely!?



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