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General Chat Thread, Something To Pass On To Your Bursa - FMSiS To Be Scrapped in General; Michael Gove, Secretary of State for Education announced the decision on 15 November 2010 to end the current FMSiS with ...
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    Something To Pass On To Your Bursa - FMSiS To Be Scrapped

    Michael Gove, Secretary of State for Education announced the decision on 15 November 2010 to end the current FMSiS with immediate effect and develop a simpler standard as a replacement.
    FMSiS is scrapped - News - Education Executive

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    I've not seen my boss smile so much for quite some time when I told her this.

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    Just sent that to my boss (the business manager). We're just about to go through a FMSiS audit!

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    Emailed the link to our business manager

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    That's not going to go down well at one of my schools. The finance officer has just gone through this, with much stress too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bladedanny View Post
    That's not going to go down well at one of my schools. The finance officer has just gone through this, with much stress too.
    Same here, Bursar basically shut down the finance department for as week to do it!

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    I've only just done my Governor's FMSiS training!

    Emailed Bursar at my governor school with the link from the DfE yesterday. 'Quietly delighted' best describes the mood!

    Complex school financial reporting tool scrapped - The Department for Education

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    That's made our Bursar a VHB (Very Happy Bunny) too!

    She was just preparing for our next FMSiS in January. We were one of the first round here initially and it was an absolute nightmare to get all the paperwork together. The paperwork that was gathered filled a filing box!

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    That's really good news :-)
    Now, if he'd scrap the school workforce census as well....

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    Given that one of our FMSiS action points was to implement a password system that has:
    - min 8 characters
    - combination of alpha/numeric & special characters
    - forced password changes every 90 days
    - prevent re-use of last 10 passwords

    I am rather happy too and hoping that our head will scrap the action plan too! Yes I know it's good practice for password policy, but the entire county's primary schools all use the same Administrator password unless someone in the school changes it so this did seem like a bit overkill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaphc View Post
    Given that one of our FMSiS action points was to implement a password system that has:
    - min 8 characters
    - combination of alpha/numeric & special characters
    - forced password changes every 90 days
    - prevent re-use of last 10 passwords

    I am rather happy too and hoping that our head will scrap the action plan too! Yes I know it's good practice for password policy, but the entire county's primary schools all use the same Administrator password unless someone in the school changes it so this did seem like a bit overkill.
    That seems like a reasonable standard password enforcement system for staff details to be fair. Kinda important for making sure you're doing everything you should to comply with your Data Protection responsibilities, along with your Child Protection policies.

    Problem is, for those schools still using 2003 server and on a single domain, they can't implement the above without forcing all pupils to deal with it too. And having a year 5 kid remember an 8 character password containing letters, numbers and special characters would just not work.

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    My bursar has the FMSiS person in right now!

    He'll be shown the printout it when he next surfaces from the room full of paperwork....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydra View Post
    My bursar has the FMSiS person in right now!

    He'll be shown the printout it when he next surfaces from the room full of paperwork....
    Oh to be a fly on the wall when your Bursar reads this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydra View Post
    My bursar has the FMSiS person in right now!

    He'll be shown the printout it when he next surfaces from the room full of paperwork....
    Pleeeze video it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    That seems like a reasonable standard password enforcement system for staff details to be fair. Kinda important for making sure you're doing everything you should to comply with your Data Protection responsibilities, along with your Child Protection policies.

    Problem is, for those schools still using 2003 server and on a single domain, they can't implement the above without forcing all pupils to deal with it too. And having a year 5 kid remember an 8 character password containing letters, numbers and special characters would just not work.
    And we are on Windows 2003 for now so that's another plus point for me But seriously, as I alluded to in my previous post, we had Tech Support in from the County for some help rebuilding our server. They said to me "Isn't your Administrator password *******?" I said: "No, should it be?" "Because that's the one we use for all the primary schools in the county" It does kind of make a mockery of the system that a small school should have such a robust policy when the next level up isn't anywhere close!

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