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    Job's throwing his toys out of his pram?

    Global CIO: Steve Jobs Declares War On Google -- InformationWeek

    "But, while no company that's come before us or that's yet to be could ever lay claim to being faultless, Apple right now is operating at such a high-octane level of precision, excellence, and innovation that it's almost impossible to find flaw with its strategy, execution, operations, timing, positioning, products, or aspirations."

    Don't mention the iPhone aerial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creese View Post
    Don't mention the iPhone aerial.
    I now have visions of Basil Fawlty striding round in glasses and a black polo-neck...

    "Don't mention the iWar!!!"
    "You started it!"
    "No I didn't"
    "Yes you did - you invaded Google!"


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    jobs having a go at another company hmm must be a day ending in a y

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    Quote Originally Posted by LosOjos View Post
    LMAO

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    Quote Originally Posted by jinnantonnix View Post
    That's an interesting picture.

    As I see it (and I may be way off), Apple have been successful because they don't offer much choice.
    Want their phone? Well, buy an Iphone. Want an mp3 player? Ipod or Nano. Want a computer? Macbook, Mac or MacPro.

    Contrast with Nokia, who currently offer 109 different models. What nonsense. How is anyone to choose from this Smorgasbord?
    Thank god Apple don't run breweries or sandwich shops then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jinnantonnix View Post
    That's different. If you choose the wrong beer or chutney, for instance, it's very unlikely that you'll regret it in any real sense.
    In the Apple world you wouldn't even have the chance to make the wrong choice. I'd rather have the option to make mistakes.

    We will never see a cheap iPhone that just makes phone calls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jinnantonnix View Post
    That's different. If you choose the wrong beer or chutney, for instance, it's very unlikely that you'll regret it in any real sense.
    You've obviously not tried some of the beers I have - though I'd still prefer the choice.

    However its true that there is too much choice from some companies. I'm just pleased to see that Nokia are hopefully fixing this in their own product lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creese View Post
    Thank god Apple don't run breweries or sandwich shops then.
    Apple would never run a brewerie, it would never fit into their age appropriate sandbox for products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jinnantonnix View Post
    YES! You've got it! Where's the profit in a cheap iPhone? That's for Nokia these days.
    That's not the arguement though is it? Nokia as you say offers choice, cheap, basic, many functions, Apple doesn't. If there was only Apple it would be the latest iPhone only pay up or shut up, literally. I prefer a worldwith choice. Roll on cheap 3D printers where people can design their own cases, unless its Apple when Jobs would probably sue.

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    I have a great interest in Africa, SA in particular. Cheap basic phones are pretty essential as they act as a debit card. Few people in townships have access to a phone at home but many have cheap and basic Nokias.

    No room for Mr Jobs there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by creese View Post
    I have a great interest in Africa, SA in particular. Cheap basic phones are pretty essential as they act as a debit card. Few people in townships have access to a phone at home but many have cheap and basic Nokias.

    No room for Mr Jobs there.
    Nokia are also developing a few applications to improve things as well.

    I know that they've done one which essentially allows you to transfer money via text message (sort of, the full mechanism is a bit more complex) so that people who've left their villages to work in towns can send money home without having to rely on the honesty and kindness of strangers. There's also a farming application to help with crop rotation which I heard about, and the bike charger they're looking to release is intended to help even more people use their phones.

    Of course, since they're a company they are almost certainly doing this in order to increase the market and get more money out, but they're improving people's lives along the way, somewhat more than the average iPhone might.

    Meanwhile Google and Apple are continuing their little spat to devalue the definition of open, and to try and get every bit of data on their users lives to sell (Google) or control their consumers (Apple).

    Is it too late to become a luddite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesb View Post
    Is it too late to become a luddite?
    Hmmm. Probably

    I had 3 people offering me money for an HTC windows slide phone on my last trip. I wouldn't accept money and gave about 4 phones away. It was quite interesting on early trips to see the poorest of people walking around with 'Cells'. Until I started satying with them and learned why.
    Last edited by creese; 20th October 2010 at 03:05 PM.

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