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    1st the cat in the bin now this

    We have all heard about the Cat in the bin but this is just the P***!!!!! Cant believe this video

    a mother teaching her 2 year old daughter how to do this

    Potty training: Shocking video of two-year-old girl smoking | The Sun |News

    she should be locked away for good

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    Damn that's really bad!

    Mother should be shot or locked away

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    This is why the death penalty should exist, having said that death is too good for some people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfletch View Post
    This is why the death penalty should exist, having said that death is too good for some people.
    I agree! BRING IT BACK!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfletch View Post
    This is why the death penalty should exist, having said that death is too good for some people.
    Overreactions like this are why I'm glad we dont have the death penalty!

    Not defending the woman but death? seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidewinder View Post
    Overreactions like this are why I'm glad we dont have the death penalty!

    Not defending the woman but death? seriously?
    I don't agree with the death penalty, but isn't that what she is giving the child, a slow one maybe.

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    A video from The Sun generating the reactions in this thread, not what I expected.

    She deserves education and punishment but death?! Really?!

    Edit: I am in no way defending her, it's awful but there is no way she deserves to be killed.
    Last edited by Fatmas; 17th September 2010 at 10:32 AM.

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    have to agree with you guys there Death penalty should be brought back but not for cases like this Only the more serious cases (not going to write them incase you get a violation lol)

    the woman should be punished and to never be able to have children again, thats only my opinion.

    really bad to think that this is only one case, imagine how much this stuff is happening. you have to wonder about the social services in that country. things like this shoulndt be happening
    Last edited by gizmo2005; 17th September 2010 at 12:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gizmo2005 View Post
    you have to wonder about the social services in this country. things like this shouldn't be happening
    Last time I checked, Ohio was not in this country so this probably isn't the fault of social services :-)

    Even if it was in this country, it's not the fault of social services that a mother has no idea how to bring up her children. We read endless complaints about how the country is becoming a nanny state and yet the first reaction when something goes wrong seems to be that the nanny state doesn't do enough nannying!

    Somehow, this mother has got to the age when she can have a baby but has no idea how to bring up that baby. How did her parents allow that to happen?

    The death penalty wouldn't fix this any more than it would fix any other problem - there is no country in the world which uses the death penalty that has no crime. It's simply an easy reaction to say "let's kill someone who does something wrong"

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    thanks for pointing the country out LOL been a mad day

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfletch View Post
    This is why the death penalty should exist, having said that death is too good for some people.
    Death to all the parents causing their kids to passively smoke too?

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    I am pretty sure Darwin will sort this one out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfletch View Post
    This is why the death penalty should exist, having said that death is too good for some people.
    Death to people who smoke drugs whilst pregnant?

    Technically it's harming a child in the same way..
    but then saying that..

    Death to people who smoke anything whilst pregnant?

    Death to people who put anything bad into their bodies whilst pregnant? Including medicinal drugs? Or an extra large Big Mac Meal?

    I agree with imprisonment and a lot more education but death.. really?!

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    Sorry - my post last night was unconsidered.

    Gizmo2005 summed up my real feelings about the death penalty, but not about this case. The death penalty should exist but only for really extreme stuff.

    The death penalty is obviously a very divisive issue and perhaps a can of worms I didn't mean to open. My statement was meant as a throw away comment to express my sheer disgust at this womans behaviour, but when you write things rather than say them it doesn't always come accross correctly.

    In response to the OP and subsequent comments.

    I don't think educating the kinds of people that do this sort of thing makes much difference. I don't work in a school full time, but you folks must know that there are certain people who will not pay a blind bit of attention to anything any teacher or person with some sort of authority tries to tell them. IMHO this doesn't change until these kinds of people reach their mid to late twenties or even their thirties, making rehab or education a non-option.

    Thinks to self - "Oh no here comes another 'out there' statement":

    Death is far too draconian and indeed I regret my silly comment yesterday. Gizmo isn't far off the mark with saying "stop them having children", I'd suggest that they are not "neutered" but any children spawned were automatically up for adoption?? Is that a really bad thing to say??

    Good point about passive smoking tommej - I have a two year old boy, and I smoke. I never smoke when he is near me - in fact I never smoke when he awake. I certainly don't smoke in the house. My wife doesn't know I smoke. I feel so guilty on all fronts. Edugeek is my confession box.

    I'm just shocked someone could do what that woman did.

    THIS is even worse.

    OK - it's from the Sun, but still, the worst part in that link is the comment from Dad:

    "He looks pretty healthy to me. I don't see the problem."
    Last edited by superfletch; 18th September 2010 at 12:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfletch View Post
    Gizmo isn't far off the mark with saying "stop them having children", I'd suggest that they are not "neutered" but any children spawned were automatically up for adoption?? Is that a really bad thing to say??
    It does seem like a good idea but there's research (I think it was Ian Duncan Smith I heard talking about it most recently) that shows that if you take babies away from women like this then they simply get pregnant again.


    Quote Originally Posted by superfletch View Post
    OK - it's from the Sun, but still, the worst part in that link is the comment from Dad:

    "He looks pretty healthy to me. I don't see the problem."
    That is part of the real problem - we have people who don't think it's wrong for a child that age to smoke, drink and be wildly overweight.

    Education is the answer but I've no idea how you do it - as you say, there are plenty of people who go through school totally ignoring everything around them and learning nothing. They then become parents and the cycle repeats.

    The good news is that not all countries are like this so perhaps we can learn from the other countries which do seem more civilised.

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