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General Chat Thread, Wasp / Hornet nest or what? in General; This morning I discovered an unusual looking insects nest on the end of our garden shed. The insects look like ...
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    Wasp / Hornet nest or what?

    This morning I discovered an unusual looking insects nest on the end of our garden shed.

    The insects look like wasps but are all queen wasp sized and one of them is even bigger.

    Checking images on the web there doesn't seem to be anything like it shown anywhere?
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    Wasps by the looks of it - just been taking some pics of them in my garden:



    If they are NOT causing a problem I would leave them where they are as they will die when it gets colder - or if you want to get rid of them [ if they are wasps ] - you will have to kill the queen.
    The nest will be made out of paperish material as well.

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    I heard on the radio that in fact hornet stings are actually less poisonous than wasps but as they are bigger there is more poison. Hornets are more nervous though and are more likely to sting if you approach the nest.
    Hornets have a predominantly black head apparently rather than the yellow and black shown in mattx's splendid picture

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    Quote Originally Posted by witch View Post
    I heard on the radio that in fact hornet stings are actually less poisonous than wasps but as they are bigger there is more poison. Hornets are more nervous though and are more likely to sting if you approach the nest.
    Hornets have a predominantly black head apparently rather than the yellow and black shown in mattx's splendid picture
    Very true [ about the stings ] and it depends on how quick you can get it out. And if you do get stung, don't stop and get the sting out - get well away first as the pheromones will start to guide the other Hornets / Wasps in.

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    Come the revolution, wasps will be second against the wall; after lawyers.

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    No. it's gotta be mosquitoes - they're the only thing I kill. Hateful creatures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tech_guy View Post
    No. it's gotta be mosquitoes - they're the only thing I kill. Hateful creatures.
    What not teachers ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew_C View Post
    Come the revolution, wasps will be second against the wall; after lawyers.
    Don't knock Wasps - they are great to photograph - got quite a few good shots of them this afternoon - have another:


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    Thanks for all the replies folks. I'm pretty sure these are hornets - too big for wasps and they have a dark bit between the head and the body (learnt what that was called when I was at school but naturally can't remember it now!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by speckytecky View Post
    bit between the head and the body
    Thorax? Does it look something like this? http://creationwiki.org/pool/images/...spa_Crabro.jpg

    Hornets usually build nests in trees and shrubs. Yellow-jackets build nests in the ground and wasps build nests in house eaves. The nests don't seem to match up for a hornet - Pest Control Tips for Hornets

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    Thanks localzuk - nope it's not like the linked photo you sent I have added a new image which although poor quality and focus shows the top of the abdomen and thorax (thanks for that) are red / brown coloured; the heads are wider as well (bit like a hammer head shark) and the things are a good twice the size of a standard queen wasp.

    The nest to is a total puzzle with it's interlayered brown and white wavy horizontal stripes - I can't find anything like it on any web image searches. Sent a image to a chum in the BBC Nat History unit for him to have a gander at it.


    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    Thorax? Does it look something like this? http://creationwiki.org/pool/images/...spa_Crabro.jpg

    Hornets usually build nests in trees and shrubs. Yellow-jackets build nests in the ground and wasps build nests in house eaves. The nests don't seem to match up for a hornet - Pest Control Tips for Hornets
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    Cracking photo mattx, what kit did you use to take it with?

    Quote Originally Posted by mattx View Post
    Don't knock Wasps - they are great to photograph - got quite a few good shots of them this afternoon - have another:


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    Quote Originally Posted by speckytecky View Post
    Cracking photo mattx, what kit did you use to take it with?
    Thanks, A Canon 500D and a good macro lens:

    Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro Lens Review

    One of the best lenses I have ever used.
    It's quite over exposed [ I wanted the flash to go off as the light was already low ] - should have stuck the camera in spot metering mode - took off quite a bit in photoshop.
    Last edited by mattx; 22nd August 2010 at 11:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speckytecky View Post
    Thanks localzuk - nope it's not like the linked photo you sent I have added a new image which although poor quality and focus shows the top of the abdomen and thorax (thanks for that) are red / brown coloured; the heads are wider as well (bit like a hammer head shark) and the things are a good twice the size of a standard queen wasp.

    The nest to is a total puzzle with it's interlayered brown and white wavy horizontal stripes - I can't find anything like it on any web image searches. Sent a image to a chum in the BBC Nat History unit for him to have a gander at it.
    Sounds remarkably like paper wasps, but the fact the nests aren't open celled gives me pause.

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    Looks like Vespa crabro if you do a search and it is larger than a wasp, but it is a hornet. The nest looks very similar too.

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