General Chat Thread, Drill recommendation in General; I'm looking to purchase a drill for the IT support dept and haven't a clue what to go for. Ideally ...
19th July 2010, 10:50 AM #1
I'm looking to purchase a drill for the IT support dept and haven't a clue what to go for. Ideally we need cordless with two batteries and the ability to drill through metre thick walls if needed. Can anybody recommend any that they've used? Not too bothered by price, but would probably go upto £300 max.
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19th July 2010, 11:04 AM #2
this ones a good price same as the one I borrow from my girlfriends dad who is a joiner when I need one, 18 volts loads of power
DeWalt XRP DC988L1 18V Li-Ion Cordless Combi Drill - Screwfix.com, Where the Trade Buys
id stick with dewalt or makita
19th July 2010, 11:18 AM #3
Look for one which uses Lithium Ion batteries, I would also add Bosch Professional (blue) to the list provided by Chris_in_notts
19th July 2010, 11:18 AM #4
I'd definately +1 for the Dewalt. We have a DC945 that we got from screwfix a few years ago, 2 batteries - fast charger. Completely kicks the arse off the Black and Decker I have at home.
19th July 2010, 11:31 AM #5
Makita all the way! -Makita UK-
One of our site staff guys swears by them and I use one in my occasional weekend job at a local theatre for putting sets together and stuff and have never had a problem with them
19th July 2010, 11:44 AM #6
The Bosch professional range is pretty good (there's a cordless here that can drive a 3cm diameter bit through granite-faced walls) - that and Makita are what we borrow from the site guys.
19th July 2010, 11:49 AM #7
Another +1 for the Dewalt.
19th July 2010, 11:50 AM #8
If you are going through metre thick walls you will need something with serious power (As a sparky I have gone through a few 18 & 24v cordless drills this way!). Forget 18V altogether, they will burn out too quickly. I currently have a 36V Lithium Ion Bosch.Bosch Cordless Rotary Hammer GBH 36 VF-LI Discount Building Supplies Ltd It's as capable as a mains powered 2KG Hammer drill. But its not cheap, I got a deal on mine for £350 off ebay, but it should be around £550. If you can manage with a mains powered, go for a 3KG+ Hammer Drill (loads in screwfix or toolstation). They are much cheaper.
As a side note, dont buy metre drill bits from main suppliers. Go to Ebay. I used to pay £80 for a decent metre drill bit, now I pay a tenner! They wont last as long, but mine has lasted 2 years of serious abuse so far.
Hope this helps :-)
19th July 2010, 07:20 PM #9
I'm going to be sorting out my girlfiend's flat in a few weeks - fitting shelves, and a wardrobe, and possibly drilling some holes to put Cat5 cable through. I currently have a rather sissy little drill I got for about £20 which I never seem to be able to drill anything with - it goes through plasterboard, but that's about it. What sort of drill do I need to fit, say, shelves to a wall in such a way that they won't fall off again? Do I really need a more powerful drill, or am I simply not pushing hard enough or something? How do I tell what I'm drilling in to - what is likely to be behind plasterboard, for instance? Would people recommend one of those metal-detector devices that can tell you where wires are in the wall?
19th July 2010, 09:23 PM #10
We've just got one of these on the Site Team - Hitachi DH24DVA 4.1kg SDS Plus Drill - Screwfix.com, Where the Trade Buys its to replace a ~7 year old Bosch Pro Blue drill (like the one I had Badders) so the Bosch had certainly done its time for the College including nearly completely re-cabling the entire building, numerous shelves, holes in floors, walls, ceilings, a full CCTV system and many many more jobs that I can guess it was used for, but they are all over £300 new from the big names. I got mine from a dealer on eBay as it was the previous years model before they changed the battery system so they were selling them off cheap, but it has been worth every penny of its costs.
Hitachi DH24DVC 4kg Cordless SDS Plus Hammer Drill 24V - Screwfix.com, Where the Trade Buys Is a cheaper model of the one we have just got and fits your price range so should be a good drill, you certainly want an SDS drill though not a normal one and a pair of batterys are a blessing I wouldn't be without mine and I've even got a 3rd for it now (and a second charger!)
I would also suggest making sure you get a good set of bits for the drill - http://www.screwfix.com/prods/92406/...rute-Tough-Box are good general purpose ones for general every day stuff, as for the walls, depends how much your doing you could get a small set of 1 meter+ length bits, I've got a set of 4 sizes and they were about £30 from the local DIY store or just buy the right size but for big name bits you can be paying £30+ for one which is very steep. If you've got a good few holes to do its worth investing in diamond core bits, we have a few sizes and they are a blessing, much easier than standard SDS bits to get through walls for cabling
Last edited by john; 19th July 2010 at 09:27 PM.
19th July 2010, 10:12 PM #11
I have a corded SDS drill which I got from Screwfix, I know I am not supposed to have one in school but I do it in secret. Cost me about £60... need it at my school as the walls are about a metre think and very hard.
20th July 2010, 09:33 AM #12
A Standard 18v 1.8ah Cordless is more than adequate for that, I would always go for SDS now. Use plasterboard screws for securing it though. Like Metal RediDrivas 35mm Pack of 100 - Screwfix.com, Where the Trade Buys. Unlike rawplugs, these will not slide out of the wall as soon as you place a book on your shelf :-) Don't expect a plasterboard fixing to hold heavy items though, its ok for books and CD's, etc but not for TV's and the like. For that you need to be drilling into masonary and using rawplugs.
As for whats behind your plasterboard, dont drill above, below or horizontally either side of sockets or switches. Cables will generally run in those directions. I would invest in a cable detector though, as I recently found a 10mm shower cable running diagonally accross a wall with my now very bent drill bit. (Oh the joys of no RCD's or breakers and a fuse that been modified with a generous winding of fuse wire). It melted the drill bit and gave everyone a lovely fireworks show :-)
Makita, Bosch and DeWalt drills have never seen me wrong. Hope that helps.
Thanks to WOW_freak from:
20th July 2010, 09:48 AM #13
As people have said for meter thick walls you need something substantial, which will then be OTT for normal use and driving screws.
Get a sensible recharable driver drill for all the normal stuff, moutning wall boxes and APs. Then get a big mains powered bugger for your meter thick walls (or if it's only something you're going to do once hire one).
We've got a couple of Ryobis here that arn't bad, I've also got a Hitachi at home which is good.
If you want something dirt cheap my dad has a Clarke drill, which considering what it cost wasn't bad. I'm thinking of getting one to replace my Metabo. Why replace the Metabo, well it's older then me and my dad's loonatic landlord fixed it with brushes from a blender.
20th July 2010, 09:52 AM #14
Aldi are doing a battery hammer drill, I got one Sunday. If your drill comes out of the wall red, it's brick and can be difficult to drill into. If it is block (most likely with plasterboard) then most drills will drill into that.
Originally Posted by dhicks
Have you thought about hidden shelving. Basically a frame on the wall with a bit of mdf top and bottom, great for recesses. Don't go overboard with the screw depth but don't rely on plasterboard to support a shelf.
20th July 2010, 10:09 AM #15
You will need a sds drill to drill that deep, once you have used one you will never go back.
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