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General Chat Thread, Water firm imposes hosepipe ban in north-west England in General; Originally Posted by BBC News A hosepipe ban is to be introduced in most of north-west England for the first ...
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    Water firm imposes hosepipe ban in north-west England

    Quote Originally Posted by BBC News
    A hosepipe ban is to be introduced in most of north-west England for the first time in 14 years.
    The temporary ban, which will affect millions of householders in the region, will come into force at 0600 BST on Friday, United Utilities has said.
    The firm said the measure will help "safeguard essential supplies".
    BBC News - Water firm imposes hosepipe ban in north-west England

    Please note that it is currently chucking it down here!

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    Not massively surprising - this is a photo I took at Dovestones Reservoir last week, you can see the high water marker on the side of the overflow, and how far below it the current level is

    Water firm imposes hosepipe ban in north-west England-dovestone.jpg

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    Bloody hell - any lower and you'll start to see the hidden village!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatt View Post
    Please note that it is currently chucking it down here!
    i was just about to say that, i actually had to use my wipers on the way to work this morning! still warm tho...

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    I won't be surprised if we have such things happen down here in the SW too. The amount of rain here is hovering below a 5th of the average for this time of year.

    Not that it'd affect me though, as I don't own a garden or a hose...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatt View Post
    Bloody hell - any lower and you'll start to see the hidden village!
    I'm told that the village below Haweswater is starting to emerge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by localzuk View Post
    I won't be surprised if we have such things happen down here in the SW too. The amount of rain here is hovering below a 5th of the average for this time of year.

    Not that it'd affect me though, as I don't own a garden or a hose...
    I hope not, I just laid a new lawn 4 weeks ago so my hose is on every other night.

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    Put a sign in your garden saying "Car Wash" - then you will be exempt from the ban

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    I heard an interesting discussion this morning about the problem. Part of the reason that the north west is having problems is to do with the rock. In London and the south east there is porous chalk so underground aquifers form as the water trickles down through the surface and we can then extract that water even though we don't get much rainfall.

    In areas of harder rock, the rainfall just runs away (into the rivers and then the sea???) so even though there's more rain, we're not capturing it (and probably can't do so easily)

    Think I got that right but it sort of makes sense.

    What we need is the various water companies to employ a huge number of people to build a water grid so we can collect more water and channel it around the country. Benefits would be long term water security and also employing lots of people who currently don't have jobs. Of course, it would cost a vast amount of money with no real impact on increasing profits so I don't suppose it will happen.

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    I volunteer the towns of Dunstable and Luton to be used as the new reservoir. It'd be the most useful thing either town has done in decades, and it would be fair to say, would finally solve all the traffic problems in the area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveBentley View Post
    I'm told that the village below Haweswater is starting to emerge!
    I also heard this the other day so its probably right

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    Well, in my part of darkest Warwickshire we haven't had rain for nearly eight weeks now. I blame the North Koreans and cucumber sandwiches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jinnantonnix View Post
    Let's hope they become 'particularly active on leakage at times of drought.'

    Hosepipe ban firm told to improve leaks record (From Lancashire Telegraph)



    I don't know how much 460 million litres is in the scheme of things, but I bet it would fill a fair few hosepipes.
    From that article:

    "In the North West almost one in every four litres of water that is supposed to come through our taps is lost. Only Thames Water and Severn Trent lose a greater volume, with Thames Water leaking 700million alone.

    UU, which made a 500m pre-tax profit last year, said fixing leaks was one of its top priorities. It is investing 200million over the next five years on improving its pipe network."

    A quarter of the water! And for a company making 500m pre-tax profit, 200m over 5 years investment isn't very much... ie. 40m a year, less than 10% profit.

    If they really cared about reducing the leaks, they'd be investing 200m a year for the next 5 years. But then, that'd damage dividends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbo View Post
    It says that fines of upto 1000 can be given out for anyone flouting the law?

    How does this work? Who enforces the fines? What laws are you breaking by using a service you pay for from a private company?
    IIRC the 1991 Water Act makes the edicts by water companies legally enforceable. Much like trespassing on a railway is a criminal offence even though they're owned and operated by 'private' companies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tech_guy View Post
    Well, in my part of darkest Warwickshire we haven't had rain for nearly eight weeks now. I blame the North Koreans and cucumber sandwiches.
    Im in Brum and it rained yesterday, last night and all morning... I would gladly swap our rain for your sun

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